fish tailing like mad

Originally Posted by Richie

So did Dave check his tyre pressures...?



in that case I'll probably see DaveP on the Ar09 in 2011....

listen here R.E.M.F boy unlike your lot i do on time where needed lol

[Richie]

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catch you soon.

I know the thread has been answer, but I had to pick up on this...

Originally Posted by TazDaz

If you knock it down a few gears whilst on the front brake, if the revs happen to bounce high enough it may spin the wheel up a bit which can feel weird.

It can do, yes, more in a sec...

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

Whats driving the wheel in that scenario ?

How do you spin the wheel in the direction of travel ( which is what I think you are impying ) when the throttle is shut and no fuel is being admited to cylinders to burn to move the bike forward.

Cant see what you're getting at...

Fizz, I'm sorry but that's a rather large assumption. At no point (that I can see) did anyone say under braking the throttle was shut.

Supermoto technique's mean you can ride a bike where you're heavy on the front brake, whilst actively opening the throttle. I won't go into detail as I would hate for someone to read this & think "That sounds like a good craic, I'll try that."

It will step the back out going into a corner, and it takes a certain element of bravery the first time it's attempted. Then you need to pull over & change your pants.

Sorry, I'll go sit in the pedantic corner now...

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by Baph

Fizz, I'm sorry but that's a rather large assumption. At no point (that I can see) did anyone say under braking the throttle was shut.

Yep but a reasonable one I think.

I for one dont ride along with the throttle pinned open and the front brake on...

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

I for one dont ride along with the throttle pinned open and the front brake on...

[pedant mode]You don't do it with the throttle pinned open, on an SM bike, that would result in an interesting wheelie when the tyre grips mid bend. That's part of the reasoning I didn't go into detail in how to accomplish it. [/pedant mode]

I learnt the technique on a friends KTM, and regularly do so when I'm playing, even on the SV. I find it allows for a faster paced ride, though I will conceed that it is vastly more dangerous (esp on public roads).

But you go through rear tyres too quickly.

Originally Posted by TazDaz

If you're hooning down the road, apply the front brake so the weight is on the front, but at the same time knock it down a few gears which will cause the revs to shoot up. Won't this cause the rear to try and spin quicker than the front???

If anything it would slow down the back wheel. Thats why you downshift to slow down, the gears can do some of the braking for you. When my bike jumps out of second sometimes it feels like i just slammed on the rear brake.

Originally Posted by Baph

I know the thread has been answer, but I had to pick up on this...



It can do, yes, more in a sec...



Fizz, I'm sorry but that's a rather large assumption. At no point (that I can see) did anyone say under braking the throttle was shut.

Supermoto technique's mean you can ride a bike where you're heavy on the front brake, whilst actively opening the throttle. I won't go into detail as I would hate for someone to read this & think "That sounds like a good craic, I'll try that."

It will step the back out going into a corner, and it takes a certain element of bravery the first time it's attempted. Then you need to pull over & change your pants.

Sorry, I'll go sit in the pedantic corner now...

Valentino Rossi has said that he uses a similar method, or has used a similar method, to help settle his motogp yamaha in turns. Ok, thats valentino, but the physics is still the same. I can see how it would work

[Paul the 6th]

glad to hear you've sorted the tyre dave - was worried I'd have to do the recce on my own....

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Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

A slide, yes. A lock, no

Originally Posted by Baph

Sorry, I'll go sit in the pedantic corner now...

Take some extra sandwiches, a big flask, two packets of crisps and two Mars bars. YC will be waiting for you when you get there