Blipping the throttle on downchanges?

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid

Yep, you should be at the correct road speed before changing gear..ie the system was "road positioning is correct, speed is correct, gear is 3 and I will now negotiate this left hand bend..." Position, speed, gear, manouvre...

Ah i get it now, sounds like a lot to think about but i expect its pretty easy once you know

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid

Yep, you should be at the correct road speed before changing gear..ie the system was "road positioning is correct, speed is correct, gear is 3 and I will now negotiate this left hand bend..." Position, speed, gear, manouvre...

Police training I presume. I think I recall Vicky Butler Henderson being shown this technique on 5th Gear a few years back.

Doesn't make a lick of sense to me, but clearly it fits a purpose and is simple to teach.

[Shellywoozle]

Originally Posted by sinbad

Police training I presume. I think I recall Vicky Butler Henderson being shown this technique on 5th Gear a few years back.

Doesn't make a lick of sense to me, but clearly it fits a purpose and is simple to teach.

IPSGA (Information, Position, Speed, Gear, Acceleration) - Police training but is the best way of driving. You never more than one thing at a time. You never have to steer and change gear. By being at the right speed, at the right time for the obstabcle ahead you ALWAYS have a stable and balanced car/bike.

It takes a while to get used to but once you use the system of car control you will wonder how you drove before.

Ohh and not simple to teach ........... 4 week advanced course and 9 hours a day solid driving and some still fail.

[Richie]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

From full throttle... close throttle, brake progressively... swear a bit... see god... brake VERY HARD... knock it down 3 gears (clutchblipBOWWWW) very quickly ... wait for back tyre to hook back up and stop sliding... turn in ... open throttle
Big grin

you always make me lol.. and you need

[yorkie_chris]

Thing is I can do all that and still be slower than someone who can actually ride

Originally Posted by Shellywoozle

IPSGA (Information, Position, Speed, Gear, Acceleration) - Police training but is the best way of driving. You never more than one thing at a time. You never have to steer and change gear. By being at the right speed, at the right time for the obstabcle ahead you ALWAYS have a stable and balanced car/bike.

It takes a while to get used to but once you use the system of car control you will wonder how you drove before.

Ohh and not simple to teach ........... 4 week advanced course and 9 hours a day solid driving and some still fail.

Hah, no it's really not the best way to drive. If you can't steer and change gear at the same time how the heck do you drive at all?

People fail the driving test too, doesn't mean it's hard to drive a car. It's simple to teach the system you outline because it requires zero technique that people with a manual car license do not already have.

Originally Posted by Shellywoozle

IPSGA (Information, Position, Speed, Gear, Acceleration) - Police training but is the best way of driving. You never more than one thing at a time. You never have to steer and change gear. By being at the right speed, at the right time for the obstabcle ahead you ALWAYS have a stable and balanced car/bike.

It takes a while to get used to but once you use the system of car control you will wonder how you drove before.

Ohh and not simple to teach ........... 4 week advanced course and 9 hours a day solid driving and some still fail.

Glad I got it right, I did my 4 week course 3 years ago!!

[Shellywoozle]

Originally Posted by sinbad

Hah, no it's really not the best way to drive. If you can't steer and change gear at the same time how the heck do you drive at all?

People fail the driving test too, doesn't mean it's hard to drive a car. It's simple to teach the system you outline because it requires zero technique that people with a manual car license do not already have.

See ya point SInbad, when I used the example steering and changing gear maybe that wasnt the best to use.... but that is summat you shouldnt be doing as an advanced driver. I only do gear change overlap when turning into a left hand bend with a car behind me.

Well I must be a typical woman driver then as I found the advanced driving course intense and the system was, in theory, easy but when being pushed to go round country lanes at 100mph plus, use the system and stay in one piece I was a nervous wreck LOL. (Then again I suppose throw in auxiliary buttons, radios and doing running commentary as well as the above no wonder I was stressed, being a bird I find it hard to multi task)

he he he or maybe its just the blonde streaks in me hair

[Shellywoozle]

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid

Glad I got it right, I did my 4 week course 3 years ago!!

I did my 3 week Blue light course 6 years ago, my 1 week pursuit 3 years ago and advanced last year. Just out of interest what stages of driving do you guys do. Getting an advanced around here is like rocking horse do do.

[gruntygiggles]

Originally Posted by sinbad

Hah, no it's really not the best way to drive. If you can't steer and change gear at the same time how the heck do you drive at all?

People fail the driving test too, doesn't mean it's hard to drive a car. It's simple to teach the system you outline because it requires zero technique that people with a manual car license do not already have.

Steering and changing gear can be a dangerous thing to do. This is the best way to drive and I am not police trained, I have been rally trained in the past.

If you are going around a bend and in the middle of changing gear a deer jumps out in front of you, youhave far less control of a car that is already under the pressure of a turn. If you have already used your observations, got your position right, got your speed down to the appropriate speed for the bend (same as bike, depends on how far around the bend you can see, can you see the exit) and selected the correct gear for that speed, you can negotiate the bend with both hands on the wheel...properly. Then, when a deer shoots out, you are in full control of the vehicle, can effectively swerve, brake pop your hazards on if need be and so on. If you were in the middle of changing gear....you'd have a lell of a lot more to do!

EDIT:....this is of course assuming you are not going around a big bend with the car under no force from the bend. If you can see clearly ahead of you that the road is safe and the bend will not tighten, not so much a problem.

Not to mention as per my and others previous posts, changing gear on a bend requires dipping the clutch....this means a loss of control, however momentary at a time when the car needs to be under full drive.