Gripe of the day - What is yours?

[maviczap]

It'll still kill you on your leccy bill here, but it's cheaper than filling the bath up with hot water.

[andrewsmith]

Or using the gas

[BanannaMan]

Originally Posted by maviczap

but it's cheaper than filling the bath up with hot water

Here too but hot water to a bath or shower is piped in seperately from a (usually electric) storage water heater as its cheaper to keep a reservoir of hot water at temperature than to constantly heat cold water.
Disadvantge is , its a limited supply before it turns cold.
I had to add a second water when we added new bath and laundry rooms to the house.
Newer gas water heaters claim to heat water faster than used though.

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[kaivalagi]

If I had a combination boiler I would have gone with a direct hot/cold feed but as is via a storage tank and I don't heat water all the time it made sense to have an electric shower for quick 5min showers in the moring

[ophic]

Originally Posted by BanannaMan

Here too but hot water to a bath or shower is piped in seperately from a (usually electric) storage water heater as its cheaper to keep a reservoir of hot water at temperature than to constantly heat cold water.

Bit of a fallacy there.

It's cheaper to keep a large tank hot than to constantly let it go cold and heat it up when you need it, assuming you need it reasonably often. Also there's the convenience factor as you'd have to wait while it heated up.

Heating water as it runs through a narrow pipe on demand only heats the water you actually use, as you are using it. Much more efficient than a tank, even given the fact that electricity is about 3 times more expensive than gas over here.

In fact combi boilers work on a similar principle here as well - only with gas. Heated as you need it. There's no tank. It's done for efficiency as it's expensive over here and it keeps the greenies happy.

This article points out that the US pays less than half of what we do in the UK.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24238708

and it's from the BBC so it must be right

[NTECUK]

Instant electric shower is just reliant on the mains water pressure.
Round hear it's pants so that's why we have a power shower.

[Heorot]

We installed Solar panels on the roof and we get paid for 50% of what we generate. We usually use all we generate during the day running our computers, However, for when are not using it, we bought a device attached to our hot water tank that detect electricity going from the roof the the grid and uses it to heat the water in the hot water tank.

We reckon that we will recover our outlay just from the payments in under 5 years and thats not counting our reduced electricity bills.

[ophic]

Originally Posted by NTECUK

Instant electric shower is just reliant on the mains water pressure.
Round hear it's pants so that's why we have a power shower.

Not allowed to pump direct off the mains. Power showers are great if you have a water tank though.

[NTECUK]

It's not that difficult to do.
It's just a separate dedicated cold freed from the storage tank that is in the loft that supplies the hot tank.
I did fit another tank in parallel to give me another 50 lts.
The biggest ach was fitting the flange in the hot water tank.

[Sir Trev]

Originally Posted by DomP

Do police ever pull people for doing too far under the stated speed limit, is just as dangerous as excessive speed.

They can indeed. Mate's Dad was done for doing about 40 on a free-flowing stretch of motorway.