Your thoughts for AR11

[Spiderman]

wouldnt it just! I'd love to see Mr Johnsons face when 100+ bikes all start up and get ready to go, lol.

Originally Posted by Supervox

I don't see why a Soho Massive AR isn't possible - ok camping in Soho Square might be bit of a problem

I thought 'camping' in Soho Square was de rigeur!

But I digress. I'm afraid I'd be a bit rubbish at organising an AR, certainly the route. But in my limited experience, it does require someone to take charge and organise the thing, wherever it is. I'd say that was far more important than location, and the basic requirements of pub, food (esp breakfast) and good showers etc are clear.

Needs someone who can be decisive, even handed and put a lid on any disagreements that blow up. Remeber, a good potential venue was once lost through bickerage.

Originally Posted by Supervox

I don't see why a Soho Massive AR isn't possible - ok camping in Soho Square might be bit of a problem - but there must be campsites on the outskirts of London & there are plenty of nice roads around the Home Counties

There may be plenty of nice roads SV, but there is also lots and lots of traffic and plenty of speed cameras. Having ridden down to Boxhill and Kent recently, I spent most of that time stuck in traffic. Very frustrating after riding up here in the Midlands. Even in Wales where the traffic density must have been less and there were loads of overtaking opportunities, the markers struggled to make their way back to the front.

Also, why don't all the people who fancy a Scottish AR, do the GM? It's well organised, has breath-taking scenery and is very friendly.

[Supervox]

Originally Posted by petevtwin650

There may be plenty of nice roads SV, but there is also lots and lots of traffic and plenty of speed cameras. Having ridden down to Boxhill and Kent recently, I spent most of that time stuck in traffic. Very frustrating after riding up here in the Midlands. Even in Wales where the traffic density must have been less and there were loads of overtaking opportunities, the markers struggled to make their way back to the front.

Also, why don't all the people who fancy a Scottish AR, do the GM? It's well organised, has breath-taking scenery and is very friendly.

That's up to whoever organises the route - I managed to find a route that had no fixed cameras & minimum traffic - it can be done it just takes a bit of effort. As for scamera vans - well we came across one of those this year didn't we? It's a fact of life I'm afraid that good riding roads attract them.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Supervox

It's a fact of life I'm afraid that good riding roads attract them.

Maybe near France or wherever you're riding

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by petevtwin650

Also, why don't all the people who fancy a Scottish AR, do the GM? It's well organised, has breath-taking scenery and is very friendly.

That's sounds like a very sensible idea.

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by CoolGirl

But in my limited experience, it does require someone to take charge and organise the thing, wherever it is. I'd say that was far more important than location

Bingo. This is the crux of the matter, we can go on all day about where we'd like to go. The question is where is it possible for us to go. Prime requirement is for somebody to put their c*ck on the block and organise things. If nobody is willing to do that, then the whole idea is a non starter IMHO.

Peronsally I'm not so sure going to tourist traps, heavily populated areas with a group the size we were this year is going to work well.

Like I said, I'm not fussed where, I am not fussed when. I'm just happy to go where somebody is wiling to organise the weekend.

I do have concerns over the sheer size of the group we are on the road now. But thats a subject for another thread.

[yorkie_chris]

No point even discussing group sizes as there's no fix for it except splitting it up which is not going to work. Even if that does result in a bit of a procession.

me and irksy are putting together a package for you lot to look over , obviously it will take us a while to source things so stay tuned wnd when we have all the info we will see if you lot fancy it

[Messie]

Woo Hoo! Music to my Essex ears Davy