Disputing a penalty charge? (riding in bus lane)

[mattSV]

Originally Posted by pinpoint_uk

I think there is but only if the bus has stopped at a stop and is still on the carriageway. Once they have indicated, as long as its safe you have to let them go. When in a bus stop which is off the carriageway then there is no requirement to let them out.

I know this as on a pre-test for my DAS this happened to me and I let the bus go and asked for clarification. Well unless the instructor was wrong of course....

I agree with the sentiment of the post, would love info on the red light fine that stood as it clearly states in the highway code you can cross a red light if needed and safe.

Rich
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Really?

I'm sure the highway code says : give way to buses.


I've got a copy somewhere and will check in a bit.

[ruddlad]

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAn...code/DG_069858

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Buses, coaches and trams. Give priority to these vehicles when you can do so safely, especially when they signal to pull away from stops. Look out for people getting off a bus or tram and crossing the road.


http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAn...code/DG_070236

MUST/MUST NOT are legal requirements

It's advisory, there is no legal requirement to do so.

Fair enough - stand corrected. Personally never had a problem with buses but understand in London as there are loads then it can cause issues.

Rich

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Originally Posted by mattSV

Really?

Take appropiate actions to let it pass, whilst obeying traffic signs...... I take that as allowing it although the last bit does worry me... I certainly would not be happy with a driver not crossing a red light to get out of the way if safe to do so.

Again I have never had any problems with this and have never heard of anybody else having issues.

Rich

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[mattSV]

"Take appropiate actions to let it pass, whilst obeying traffic signs" is not quite the same as ""clearly states in the highway code you can cross a red light if needed and safe".

I would suggest that a traffic light is technically a traffic sign, indicating that you must stop prior to the stop line unless it is dangerous not too, and not pass it until the light is green AND it is safe to do so.

I would fully agree that moving through a red light to clear a path for an emergency vehicle makes common sense (and I have done this in the past), however that does not make it legal. I too would be ****ed off to get a fine for doing that.

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

I wouldn't think baldy of somebody who choose to appeal against something like this

That's good, YC wouldn't be too happy if you did, he's most sensitive about his lack of hair

Originally Posted by agy

I don't know... This is all very strange. I live here, I know the hours of operation. I find it hard to believe I would enter it on three occasions when I know I don't normally do it.

I know someone who managed to get snapped by the same fixed speed camera 3 times in her car, maybe she was just unlucky as might be your case. Or maybe she was asleep all three times

What's the crack with this then, I'm guessing you're not going to try to appeal everything, either way it's a lot of wonga to lose I was going to say by all means appeal the first one if there's a chance of saving the cash but if the b@stards have got you twice more...

I wonder if you can argue its one offence?

On what grounds would that be: a fart bubble in the space/time vortex?

Well, if you get pulled Over for speeding, you don't get a ticket per metre.


The police can follow you for as long as they like but it's one offence, if you'd not left the bus lane surely it would be too?