Gripe of the day - What is yours?

[admin]

Lumping a whole age group together is dangerous and discriminatory. I'm 64 this year so only a few years away from this. I recognise the driving styles mentioned above and it's not just limited to over 70's (and it annoys me too). I've always thought some sort of regular checkup on the driver would be a good idea, like an MOT. Just to check that drivers like me who passed their tests decades ago still have had their eyesight checked, have the same number of limbs (that work) and still remember the basics of the highway code.



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[DJ123]

Originally Posted by Dave20046

I'm sorry (and I'll review in a few years!) but I bloody agree. I recently sat in the car with my mother and when asked why she was doing 33 in a 40 in the wrong lane she said 'because I'm turning right' and I had to point out she wasn't turning right for over half a mile and the limit was 40 and it was more than safe to be doing that (as two cars undertook her). Then she did 38 through the following 30!
I think the "I'm turning right" screw everyone else mentality comes with age, previously she would never have done that asa notably longtime nervy driver . My Dad's getting like that too. The ampount of accidents my grandparents had in their latter years was unbelievable, sad to remove those freedoms and I'm not sure a blanket rule is the way to go but certainly another layer of testing!

I've seen older people go the wrong way around a round about (pretty sure it was on a ride with people on here) , she had the audacity to shake her head and scowl at all the dirty bikers waving both arms at her. And also go the wrong way down a motorway. I know young people can be reckless but atleast they have some consciousness and ample cognitive resources to react or atleast inspect their own actions rather than presume they are in the right and scowl at everyone trying to warn them of the chaos.

If a vehicle is in the right hand lane of a multi lane carriageway and they're turning right, it is legal to pass them on the left hand side.


Highway code 163
Overtake only when it is safe and legal to do so. You should

only overtake on the left if the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right, and there is room to do so

[daktulos]

Originally Posted by svenrico

'The new 'graduated driving licences' would see elderly drivers, suffering with health problems, restricted to an area of just 20 or 30 miles from their home and could see a night time ban enforced.'
Watch out over 70's !

If this happened, the IAM would be in trouble!

[TamSV]

Doesn’t really matter does it? It’s not long before self-driving cars will be good enough that all human operators will be banished in the name of safety.

Enjoy the thrill of pensioners coming at you on the wrong side of the road while you still can.


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[Bibio]

still say that it should be compulsory for people to take a driving test every 10 years (licence renewal time) till retirement age then every 2 years after that. the standard of driving compared to 20 years ago is fukin shocking and we need to get sub standard drivers off the roads for everyone's safety. that wont sell cars though will it

[SV650rules]

Look at the stats and the group comprising 16 to 29 year olds are the most likely to have a serious accident, and a lot of them are very serious indeed ( 5 killed in one car sort of thing ), with the 20 to 29 year olds the worst by far of every group. Drivers over 80 are more likely to kill or injure themselves than others. Maybe a few older drivers need a psychiatric assessment as they may have alzheimer's.

[chris8886]

We also should make the driving test FAR more difficult, driving is a privilege, NOT a right and people should only be driving/riding if they're of a good enough standard! People that are very nervous when they've just passed their test shouldn't be allowed to drive on their own and there should be a test/extra part to drive on the motorways. Apart from the amount of traffic, the number of vehicles not in the correct lanes causes so many extra traffic jams.

[svenrico]

Originally Posted by Dave20046

I'm sorry (and I'll review in a few years!) but I bloody agree. I recently sat in the car with my mother and when asked why she was doing 33 in a 40 in the wrong lane she said 'because I'm turning right' and I had to point out she wasn't turning right for over half a mile and the limit was 40 and it was more than safe to be doing that (as two cars undertook her). Then she did 38 through the following 30!
I think the "I'm turning right" screw everyone else mentality comes with age, previously she would never have done that asa notably longtime nervy driver . My Dad's getting like that too. The ampount of accidents my grandparents had in their latter years was unbelievable, sad to remove those freedoms and I'm not sure a blanket rule is the way to go but certainly another layer of testing!

I've seen older people go the wrong way around a round about (pretty sure it was on a ride with people on here) , she had the audacity to shake her head and scowl at all the dirty bikers waving both arms at her. And also go the wrong way down a motorway. I know young people can be reckless but at least they have some consciousness and ample cognitive resources to react or atleast inspect their own actions rather than presume they are in the right and scowl at everyone trying to warn them of the chaos.

At least it does refer to old people 'suffering with health problems ', not everybody over 70 ! If you have a health problem that might affect your driving you have to declare it to the DVLA now anyway, whatever age you are. I had my license revoked because of sleep apnoea ,until I started with CPAP treatment and was passed fit to drive by a consultant after a few weeks.( but it took me 6 months to get my license back because of incompetence at DVLA. Even the DVLA doctor eventually said she couldn't understand what had happened and my license would be returned immediately. ) I wouldn't want to comment on your mother's state of health but your sweeping generalisation about 'screw everyone else mentality comes with age etc ' is simply not right. People's mental health can deteriorate at any age . I know two people younger than me who have sadly recently developed Alzheimers.

[svenrico]

Originally Posted by Bibio

still say that it should be compulsory for people to take a driving test every 10 years (licence renewal time) till retirement age then every 2 years after that. the standard of driving compared to 20 years ago is fukin shocking and we need to get sub standard drivers off the roads for everyone's safety. that wont sell cars though will it

How is your standard of driving ?

[svenrico]

Originally Posted by chris8886

We also should make the driving test FAR more difficult, driving is a privilege, NOT a right and people should only be driving/riding if they're of a good enough standard! People that are very nervous when they've just passed their test shouldn't be allowed to drive on their own and there should be a test/extra part to drive on the motorways. Apart from the amount of traffic, the number of vehicles not in the correct lanes causes so many extra traffic jams.

Driving IS a right if you pass the driving test and tax and insure your vehicle. What if you had failed the driving test if they had made it FAR more difficult, would you still feel the same way ?