Quote of the day (sorry, Brexit related)

[punyXpress]

'tis the EC way!

[embee]

So what's the alternative. What exit/trade deal do you want? Is that the deal all the other folk who voted exit want? If there's a difference of opinion, whose fault will it be when stuff goes wrong (which it will at some point). It'll just be finger pointing and disclaimers all round.

Someone has to own the decision, what do you want, and if we get a different exit are you going to just accept it with no grumbles?

[punyXpress]

We will get the deal we are given.
pour encourager les autres the remaining 'members' of the EC will be forever reminded of our folly and shown how the gauleiters deal with those who wish to abscond. They will be forevermore 'rubbing our noses in it'
for having the audacity to defy them!

[littleoldman2]

Originally Posted by littleoldman2

Why we have bothered trying to have meaningful negotiations I do not know, when from the very outset the Europeans have publicly stated that we cannot be allowed to leave with a deal that is better than staying. They have always been prepared to loose a little when we leave in order not to loose everything when others followed.

I have nothing to add.

[maviczap]

Originally Posted by punyXpress

We will get the deal we are given.
pour encourager les autres the remaining 'members' of the EC will be forever reminded of our folly and shown how the gauleiters deal with those who wish to abscond. They will be forevermore 'rubbing our noses in it'
for having the audacity to defy them!

It's to stop the Italians and Greeks from doing the same thing. Wouldn't want a stampede starting would we?

[littleoldman2]

Don't forget the Dutch.
I'll say nowt about the Hungarians.

[Talking Heads]

There are three existing options on the table.


Out with negotiated deal


Out with no deal


Remain in


The only fair and democratic way to proceed from where we are now is a three option referendum.


Let the people choose from the three options which are available.

[Talking Heads]

Except for viewers in Scotland where things are very different

[littleoldman2]

Originally Posted by Talking Heads

There are three existing options on the table.


Out with negotiated deal


Out with no deal


Remain in


The only fair and democratic way to proceed from where we are now is a three option referendum.


Let the people choose from the three options which are available.

So divide the leave vote, don't think the 52 % who voted leave would be happy with that. I think the only real vote should be between the last two after all we've had one fair and democratic vote.
Having vote after vote till the ruling classes get the result they want should not be allowed, that isn't fair or democratic, it may suit the remainers in this instance but it's a dangerous precedent.

[Talking Heads]

If by "one fair and democratic vote" you mean the EU referendum, you're seriously having a laugh.
The leave campaign broke electoral law and rhe bulk of its claims have been proven to have been lies.
In any other walk of life the vote would have been declared null and void .