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Old 07-11-18, 04:02 PM   #31
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if you think the tool is expensive wait to see if you need new bearings.... kerchingggggggg.

you will also need the allan socket to put it back together again.

Having worked as a bicycle mechanic for 10 years the price of tools and parts never really surprises me any more. I regularly fit bicycle headset cartridge bearings that cost £40 each, per cartridge! And they aren't the most expensive option. Using tools that cost £300+ for specific jobs that you need 3 variations of. Just last week had a customer opt for £90 bottom bracket cups instead of the £16 ones as he wanted shiny red to match his bike.
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Old 07-11-18, 04:47 PM   #32
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Pleased to report that main swingarm bearings feel great. Even got some grease left in them. Lower bearings ok too. Shock linkage is a bit stiff but turning fine, so should be good with a clean out.


At this stage I have to decide if I want to get a relacement shock in there while it's all apart! Can no way afford it right now but seems crazy to put it all back together to be having the same wooden riding feeling. The reason I'm taking it all apart is to rule out the bearings being the problem in case they're stopping the swingarm moving, before sinking money into a shock. The bearings definitely aren't a problem. Giving it all a clean down and refresh while it's apart anyway.
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Old 07-11-18, 07:59 PM   #33
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That's good news about the swingarm bearings. I'd be interested in whether you find the suspension linkage bearings still have any grease in them too.
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Old 07-11-18, 09:26 PM   #34
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T...I'd be interested in whether you find the suspension linkage bearings still have any grease in them too.

They seem to have much less than the main swingarm bearings. What there is left is fairly dried out and sticky too. Causing it to be really stiff pivoting. From the difference between them I'd say that the suspension linkage needs servicing much more often than the swingarm. A much easier job to do thankfully too!



I'm managing to clean a lot of dried up grease residue off the linkage bolts and bushings and it's feeling much smoother already. I think I got to the bearings just before the grease stopped protecting them as they seem really good. With new grease packed in and eveything cleaned up I'm hoping things feel a bit smoother!


I'd definitely recommend servicing the linkage at regular intervals now I've seen it.



See below pic for sticky dried up grease bolt compared to cleaned one...


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Old 07-11-18, 10:02 PM   #35
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I'm feeling a little guilty because I think it was my post on your earlier thread that sent you down this route. I hadn't intended a full swingarm removal, just the linkage strip and clean that, as you have found, is not complicated on its own but is usually very necessary. Sorry for any extra aggro you may have suffered by removing the swingarm but you will now have some valuable peace of mind.

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At this stage I have to decide if I want to get a relacement shock in there while it's all apart! Can no way afford it right now but seems crazy to put it all back together to be having the same wooden riding feeling.
I would put it all back together and ride it first to see if the problems are still as severe. It's not difficult to undo the linkages again to change a shock - no need to touch swingarm pivot for that. Since you've found some stiffness in the linkages, you may find the outcome is better than expected and the shock replacement can wait. Important if you genuinely can't afford it: Hobbies will always take at least as much money as you throw at them - beware!!!

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They seem to have much less than the main swingarm bearings. What there is left is fairly dried out and sticky too. Causing it to be really stiff pivoting. From the difference between them I'd say that the suspension linkage needs servicing much more often than the swingarm. A much easier job to do thankfully too!

I'm managing to clean a lot of dried up grease residue off the linkage bolts and bushings and it's feeling much smoother already. I think I got to the bearings just before the grease stopped protecting them as they seem really good. With new grease packed in and eveything cleaned up I'm hoping things feel a bit smoother!

I'd definitely recommend servicing the linkage at regular intervals now I've seen it.

See below pic for sticky dried up grease bolt compared to cleaned one...


The outer surface of the metal bush you have laid out in the photo looks good - clean and no corrosion except at the edges where it's exposed. It's that bush outer that matters more than the bolts - it rides on the needle rollers that are inside the linkage. Clean all three bushes/bearings thoroughly and re-pack with fresh bearing grease and you should feel an improvement - smooth and without jerkiness.


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Old 07-11-18, 10:08 PM   #36
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I'm feeling a little guilty because I think it was my post on your earlier thread that sent you down this route. I hadn't intended a full swingarm removal, just the linkage strip and clean that..



Don't worry! I'm glad I've done it. If I'd left it another year (or more) it might have been a real pain of a job. At least in the current condition it's all coming apart nicely. I'd rather do preventative work on all the bearings and keep them in good condition than be trying to bash out bits of worn out bearings in a year or two. Learning a lot too.


It all needs a clean anyway, including the outside of the swingarm under the sprocket that has a few years of accumulated chain gunge growing on it.
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Thanks for the pic! They still look decent despite having knocked about under a bike for a decade
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