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Old 08-11-08, 05:37 PM   #1
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Default So whose fault is it (lane splitting)

This is insane , why would anyone want to ride a motorbike like this anyway!!!!....I think the rider was way overconfident in himself and ended up paying for it .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GH8D2EqDZs

Lane splitting is illegal anyway and who would expect a bike to be flying through stopped traffic like that ....I say this because i myself was waiting in traffic as a bike went speeding through and startled the heck out of me

Is it an acceptable excuse to blame the car driver??
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Old 08-11-08, 05:40 PM   #2
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The rider didn't see the white car on the left indicating.

Biker's fault IMO. Maybe 80/20 against the biker if they're lucky.
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Old 08-11-08, 05:43 PM   #3
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Probably a daft question but was that not just normal filtering?
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Old 08-11-08, 05:43 PM   #4
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why wouldnt you filter? i filter when traffic's moving at 20mph or less then if something does happen i can react or it'll only be a low speed spill.
poor obs by the biker though i reckon.
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Old 08-11-08, 05:45 PM   #5
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Probably a daft question but was that not just normal filtering?
Yup, I do that pretty much every time I'm on the bike. However, the video is in LA, and in LA, as the OP states, "lane splitting" aka filtering is illegal. If you crash or not, it's illegal.

For that reason, the decision can only go against the biker, because they shouldn't of been there doing what they were doing.

But even if that happened in the UK, I'd of still said it was the bikers fault, despite filtering like that myself. As Gene Genie said, poor obs.
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Old 08-11-08, 05:48 PM   #6
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Looks like he'll have to wheelie everywhere from now on.

Probably was the bikers fault...but f*** it blame the cage anyway.
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Old 08-11-08, 05:48 PM   #7
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Yup, I do that pretty much every time I'm on the bike. However, the video is in LA, and in LA, as the OP states, "lane splitting" aka filtering is illegal. If you crash or not, it's illegal.

For that reason, the decision can only go against the biker, because they shouldn't of been there doing what they were doing.

But even if that happened in the UK, I'd of still said it was the bikers fault, despite filtering like that myself. As Gene Genie said, poor obs.
Ah I see, didn't know that. Yeah I noticed the car driver indicating, he obviously didn't though. Was very sudden, the car driver can't have looked properly, you would have thought a moving bike in stationary traffic was pretty obvious
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Old 08-11-08, 05:49 PM   #8
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whats the point of biking in a country where filtering is ilegal?
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Old 08-11-08, 05:51 PM   #9
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Ah I see, didn't know that. Yeah I noticed the car driver indicating, he obviously didn't though. Was very sudden, the car driver can't have looked properly, you would have thought a moving bike in stationary traffic was pretty obvious
The car driver will probably not have any experience of bikes, and rarely sees a bike filtering. Why would they bother to look for bikes?

The rider also didn't see the gap that the white car wanted to move into.

EDIT: IMO, the car driver has every right to be p****d off with the rider, because their illegal actions have resulted in lost time, damage to their vehicle, and no doubt an insurance claim.
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Old 08-11-08, 05:51 PM   #10
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Oh dunno I thought the idea is to watch for them bits where there is a space in the lane next to a car. He maybe ought to have slowed down when he saw that space on the right.
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