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Old 04-11-14, 05:16 PM   #11
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Getting this back on track Pete I know where you're coming from. Having put together cases that involved loads of effort and time, only to see the culprit get off with nothing drives me & my colleagues mad.

The judge would have been given sentencing guidelines by the clerk of the court, so I don't know what went wrong in this case, but its not right.

We were taught to get it to court and after that if you got a guilty verdict that was the result you wanted, no matter what sentence was dished out. But in this case it isn't right.
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Old 04-11-14, 07:11 PM   #12
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Hasn't crime been pretty much falling since the mid 90s?
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Old 04-11-14, 07:38 PM   #13
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Putting one of my logoed hats on for a second, I'd have to say that the sentencing surrounding motoring offences is so far out of whack with the rest of the system, that it needs shaking to its core until all the **** falls out.

Sentences like this and some of the others that have been handed down from judges who are supposed to be setting things right make both the police and the general public disillusioned with the whole thing, and give the people who are willing to go beyond the law a feeling of invincibility. This is doubled by the part where there will almost certainly be an appeal to follow this case, as it's too harsh...

Luckily, there is a sentencing review upcoming, and we intend to make sure that killers especially start getting sentences that restore public confidence.
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Old 04-11-14, 08:31 PM   #14
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Anyone caught texting whilst driving should have their hands cut off. Simples
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Old 05-11-14, 01:10 PM   #15
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Anyone caught texting whilst driving slowly in the middle lane of the motorway who, when you're half way past them, put their phone down and scream off at 90mph+ leaving you out to dry in lane 3 with an impatient Audi driver flashing at you for being in their way should have their hands cut off. Simples
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Old 05-11-14, 10:28 PM   #16
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Written from a cyclist perspective but supports Pete's point:

http://www.roadjustice.org.uk/road-justice-reports

Interesting read especially the courts and sentencing report ; they also have an area to report dangerous drivers.
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Old 06-11-14, 03:08 PM   #17
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I can't read the stuff on sentencing on RTC's especially those involving cyclists. It really makes my blood boil. When you look at the injuries that people have sustained and compare the sentencing to what they would get if it was assault that resulted in those injuries.
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Old 07-11-14, 12:36 PM   #18
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At least this instance was a little better

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/...es-bmw-8064932
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Old 07-11-14, 09:35 PM   #19
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Pete mate, just hang in there and do the best job you can to put the right people in front of the court with the best possible evidence against them. That way even if they fail to do what they should you can go home knowing that you did your best, and the bottom line is that is what counts in the end.

There is a light at the end of the tunnel, I've just got there and looking back I've regretted the few times I didn't follow that advice.
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Old 08-11-14, 11:09 AM   #20
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Amen

I can see light at the end of the tunnel too, I just hope the tunnel isn't extended at my age
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