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Old 08-10-08, 03:22 PM   #41
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its wrong to be gay in the bible
Like all religious texts... it depends on how read it...
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Old 08-10-08, 03:25 PM   #42
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Like all religious texts... it depends on how read it...
I think the key is not to read it at all, look how many wars/conficts etc are started due to religion!

They are all.........actually scratch that I'll keep my opinions on religion to myself.
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Old 08-10-08, 03:26 PM   #43
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look how many wars/conficts etc are started due to religion!
It's people, not books, who start wars.
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Old 08-10-08, 03:31 PM   #44
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It's people, not books, who start wars.
Yup, people who have read books
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Old 08-10-08, 03:37 PM   #45
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An American polititian once said something like "I may not agree with what you say, but I defend your right to say it".

I may not agree with what this clergyman has said, but it does beg the question about is he right to say it, in that if that's his views he does have a basic human right to free speach.

There is a similar situation at my work. One of my friends is gay, another is a born again evangelical Christian. Ohh the light hearted banter that goes on in our office.......................................

What is interesting is that in wanting to be accepted for who they are as opposed to what they are, my gay friend has told me that they will also have to accept, that if someone refuses to accept homosexuality as anything other than a lifestyle choice, then that is their view and they are just as entitled to hold it and express it, as a gay person is entitled to express views about gay rights etc.

I didn't fully understand what my gay friend meant by this and asked, and they went on to say that in order to be accepted they too had to accept others, even if they didn't like/agree for what they stood for etc. My gay friend also went on to say that the more accepting they were of the evengelical christian position, then the more in the long term the christian would be accepting of them. To speak out/not accept the christians point of view would only prolong the continued non acceptance of homosexuality within this religious person. My friend finished off the conversation that with gay people wanting (in some cases demanding) acceptance, it would be hypocritical if in return they too didn't accept others.
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Old 08-10-08, 03:38 PM   #46
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I think the key is not to read it at all, look how many wars/conficts etc are started due to religion!

They are all.........actually scratch that I'll keep my opinions on religion to myself.
all wars in the world have been over religion and teritory
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Old 08-10-08, 03:39 PM   #47
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It's people, not books, who start wars.
But it's the idiots who read these books that turn into the extreme fundamentalists and want to go round killing all and sundry.

Religion is a complete load of old bollox, nothing but fairy tales at the end of the day.
And if i've upset any of the god squad then i don't apologise,
and if anyone is currently reading there way through the bible...don't other...He dies at the end
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Old 08-10-08, 03:40 PM   #48
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An American polititian once said something like "I may not agree with what you say, but I defend your right to say it".

I may not agree with what this clergyman has said, but it does beg the question about is he right to say it, in that if that's his views he does have a basic human right to free speach.

There is a similar situation at my work. One of my friends is gay, another is a born again evangelical Christian. Ohh the light hearted banter that goes on in our office.......................................

What is interesting is that in wanting to be accepted for who they are as opposed to what they are, my gay friend has told me that they will also have to accept, that if someone refuses to accept homosexuality as anything other than a lifestyle choice, then that is their view and they are just as entitled to hold it and express it, as a gay person is entitled to express views about gay rights etc.

I didn't fully understand what my gay friend meant by this and asked, and they went on to say that in order to be accepted they too had to accept others, even if they didn't like/agree for what they stood for etc. My gay friend also went on to say that the more accepting they were of the evengelical christian position, then the more in the long term the christian would be accepting of them. To speak out/not accept the christians point of view would only prolong the continued non acceptance of homosexuality within this religious person. My friend finished off the conversation that with gay people wanting (in some cases demanding) acceptance, it would be hypocritical if in return they too didn't accept others.



Well said...........we all have to learn to accept each other's beliefs and our rights to express those should we wish to.

If you don't like what I have to say then don't listen. That's the way I treat stuff.
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Old 08-10-08, 03:46 PM   #49
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Like all religious texts... it depends on how read it...
Very true, according to the ten commandments ''you should not covert your neighbours oxen'' if only they they knew next door what I get up to with their oxen...sorry might have gone off subject here
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Old 08-10-08, 03:50 PM   #50
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Religion is a complete load of old bollox, nothing but fairy tales at the end of the day.
And if i've upset any of the god squad then i don't apologise,
and if anyone is currently reading there way through the bible...don't other...He dies at the end
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