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Old 24-10-10, 12:30 AM   #71
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Ralph, I'm speaking in principal. There is no way I'm going to offer an opinion on the specifics of the OP's case based on what he has told us.
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Old 24-10-10, 08:19 AM   #72
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Ralph, I'm speaking in principal. There is no way I'm going to offer an opinion on the specifics of the OP's case based on what he has told us.
OK, forget that I asked about the OP then, it was really an in principal answer I was looking for.

Hypothetically, if you chased two lads who were racing each other in their Subaru's, but only managed to stop one of them. You had run a check against the other lads reg during the pursuit and knew who the registered keeper was. Then the lad you had stopped gave the same name and address when asked who was driving the other car. But you have no way of actually knowing if what you are told is true, it could actually have been another one of the lads mates who was actually at the wheel. Would the combination of a registered keeper matching the a statement from a friend as to the identity of the driver, be enough to negate the need for an S172 in your opinion?

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Old 24-10-10, 01:17 PM   #73
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There's a lot if "what if" there. To report a driver for summons someone the police need to show that they have reasonable grounds for suspecting they have committed an offence. The CPS will only then apply for that summons if they believe the evidence presented has a reasonable chance of securing a conviction, ie: they can prove the case beyond reasonable doubt.
I would suggest that should an officer present a case based on evidence secured in the way you describe then it is unlikely to result in a summons being issued, but then again nothing surprises me these days.....
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Old 24-10-10, 02:09 PM   #74
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I would hope my mates would have the brains to go "no mate... he just appeared in my mirrors and stayed there" with regards my name and address if asked!
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Old 24-10-10, 08:40 PM   #75
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I would hope my mates would have the brains to go "no mate... he just appeared in my mirrors and stayed there" with regards my name and address if asked!
i hope mine do the same!
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Old 25-10-10, 10:05 AM   #76
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I would hope my mates would have the brains to go "no mate... he just appeared in my mirrors and stayed there" with regards my name and address if asked!
Was just thinking the same thing.
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Old 25-10-10, 12:12 PM   #77
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i hope mine do the same!
You'll be lucky
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Old 25-10-10, 07:19 PM   #78
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The police would have probably known exactly who they both were before stopping, they did when i got stopped when riding with Fizz a bit fast down the M5. I ended up with a court summons and 5 points and £250, Fizz ended up with nothing, even tho they asked about Fizz by name by the side of the road after he carried on when the police car stopped me.
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He's a right bast is that fizz!
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Old 25-10-10, 08:30 PM   #80
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The police would have probably known exactly who they both were before stopping, they did when i got stopped when riding with Fizz a bit fast down the M5. I ended up with a court summons and 5 points and £250, Fizz ended up with nothing, even tho they asked about Fizz by name by the side of the road after he carried on when the police car stopped me.
Yeah, but aren't your bikes registered at the same address?
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