The Great Global Warming Swindle

The Great Global Warming Swindle

Channel 4

9.00pm

Thursday

March 8th

Could be very interesting, a slap to those who wants to tax us more on fuel and travelling?


Trailer here
The arguments
So, it is a lie

Even the co-founder of Greenpeace, Patrick Moore, is shown, claiming African countries should be encouraged to burn more CO2.

yea looks intresting, perhaps we arnt the problem after all?

its on now, so far it has been mind blowing... well done Channel 4.

Ooops

You lot are obviously deluded, it doesn't start until 11:30.

Shh, don't spoil the ending, I hate when people do that with films!

(S4C is like watching yesterday's telly, great fun, but only when you're bored! But I missed the start of this, so it has it's uses.)

Missed it GF had the remote!!
Hotel Babylon is total shyte BTW...

Ah I wanted to see that too, what was it like?

That was one interesting programme, just goes to show how ruthlessley we are all conned by the media.... particularly liked the bit about Mrs Thatch and her nuclear plan.
I don't know what to think now

Best not to think too hard about all this - I mean, at the end of the day we'll all end up under the booted heel of the ****roach.

I'm always sceptical about stuff like this. I mean, how accurate was the programme, and do we just go on the single word of this programme, compared to the multitude of voices that we hear saying CO2 causes global warming?

So I did a little digging around (google for "facts on global warming"). Apparently (direct C&P):

1. Britain is one degree Celsius cooler now than it was at the time of the Domesday book.
2. Greenland got its name from the verdant pastures that attracted the Norse settlers under Eric the Red in 986. They carried on their normal way of life (based on cattle, grain, hay and herring) for 300 years until the Little Ice Age, when they were driven off by the encroaching ice and the Inuit took over. The ice and the Inuit are still there.
3. Carbon dioxide is a minor greenhouse gas. In the atmosphere there is over a hundred times the concentration of water vapour, which is the dominant greenhouse gas.
4. Without the Greenhouse Effect there would be no life on Earth.
5. Temperature measurements by satellite, radio sonde balloons and well maintained rural surface stations in the West show no significant warming.
6. The only evidence of significant warming comes from mainly non-western stations that are probably ill maintained or those that are contaminated by the Urban Heat Island Effect.
7. Computer models of the climate are worthless, as they are based on many assumptions about interactions between climate factors that are still unknown to science. They are generally unstable and chaotic, giving a wide variety of answers depending on the input assumptions.
8. The Kyoto agreement would have a devastating effect on the world economy but, since carbon dioxide is a minor greenhouse gas, an undetectable effect on the climate.
9. The IPCC (the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) has been the main engine for promoting the global warming scare. It has become notorious for its corrupt practices of doctoring its reports and executive summaries, after they have been approved by the participating scientists, to conform to its political objectives
10. The really big lie about man-made global warming is that almost all scientists accept it. More than 4,000 scientists from 106 countries, including 72 Nobel prize winners, signed the Heidelberg Appeal (1992), calling for a rational scientific approach to environmental problems. Many senior scientists have also supported The Statement by Atmospheric Scientists on Greenhouse Warming (1992), The Leipzig Declaration (1997) and finally the Oregon Petition (199 which received the signatures of over 19,000 scientists

Also, the Earth absorbs enough energy to raise air temperature, at ground level, by 0.5C, every day apparently. That's a heck of a lot of energy. However, it's theoretically possible for the Earth to give off 5 times that amount of energy. That's why Ice Ages happen. It only retains this energy because of the "Greenhouse Effect".

More CO2 is released by the sea evaporating than human activity (mentioned in the programme too). Anyone know how long it takes for the Atlantic ocean to heat up by 1C? Or cool down by 1C? I don't think it's going to cool much in our lifetimes.

I'm still sceptical about it all, but I certainly won't be bending over backward to cut CO2 emissions. This is mainly because of #7 above.