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Old 06-02-09, 10:53 AM   #1
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Default Learner Legal SuperMoto

Need some help here guys....

My lad is taking his CBT this weekend and is thinking of getting a bike for fun / commuting to work. He would like a SuperMoto type machine but really has no idea what he's looking for. My knowledge of bikes is pretty limited - I know what I like and tend to stick with that...

Any recommendations on what to look for?
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Old 06-02-09, 11:05 AM   #2
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is it a 50 or 125 he is wanting?
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I think Derbi do a 50/125cc SM type device

Found these
http://www.f1products.co.uk/mikilon-...ike-p-235.html
http://www.itsmymarket.com/classifie...c-value-30515/
http://www.motorbikestoday.com/revie.../mz_125_sm.htm
http://www.pulsegb.co.uk/
http://www.theapriliacentre.com/apri...torcycles.html
http://www.derbi.com/int/index.php?o...=38&Itemid=206

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Old 06-02-09, 11:07 AM   #4
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I think Derbi do a 50/125cc SM type device
I also think Aprillia do something similar, but it'll be two stroke so it'll want some TLC and running on decent oil otherwise its going to let go, to be honest it might just let go anyway...
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Old 06-02-09, 11:09 AM   #5
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Can't offer any advice on the SM front, but give him a congrats, always wandered when he would follow in his dads footsteps!!
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Old 06-02-09, 11:10 AM   #6
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think yam do dt125 sm

hope snow doesnt stop play
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Old 06-02-09, 11:16 AM   #7
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is it a 50 or 125 he is wanting?
125 after his CBT. He is 21.

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Can't offer any advice on the SM front, but give him a congrats, always wandered when he would follow in his dads footsteps!!
Thanks, he always wanted his bike licence but could not afford it till now. He needed a car for boating and such, so that came first. Bank of mum & dad paid for driving lessons - he has to pay his own way for his bike and can now just about afford it. (while he has two jobs)

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think yam do dt125 sm

hope snow doesnt stop play
Yeah we hope so too, because he is unlikely to have another chance for weeks due to work.
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Old 06-02-09, 11:24 AM   #8
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Aside from the obvious

You could go for something like a KTM 450 and restrict it, but it'll take some maintenance to keep it looking good and 3-500mile oil changes probably may not work for commuting

The ~400cc Yamaha and Honda bikes offer slightly less bang than the KTM bikes but are easier to keep running, they'll need restricting also, they also come from the MX background so the bikes are aimed more at performance than easy going riding

You could try some of the 125cc bikes that manufacturers are releasing now, but tbh they're expensive and you can get a 400cc bike for about the same money with twice the power for not much extra weight

The Suzuki DRZ will have the least outright performance, but is by far the most civilised in terms of vibrations and is easy to look after




edit: thought you were after a 33bhp machine after your PM - why not get a knackered old 125 to commute on now and no direct access when summer comes around?
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Old 06-02-09, 11:33 AM   #9
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Yamaha DT125SM.

Cheap bits, Easy to fix. Very reliable and a hoot to ride. THey are also easy to restrict when erm off. Road.
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edit: thought you were after a 33bhp machine after your PM - why not get a knackered old 125 to commute on now and no direct access when summer comes around?
Well me and him are in discussion about what to get on L-plates.... This thread is to try to see what is out there. I would say cheap CG125 or similar then get a full size SM on a restricted licence. He can save in the meantime..

Viney, thanks for those links. He has limited funds, so looking for something quite old methinks. The MZ might be worth a go, not a trendy name so may be a bit cheaper.
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