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Old 03-01-20, 01:30 PM   #1
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Default Will an R1 front master cylinder fit?

Hi guys. I’ve been researching brembos and nissins etc for days and looking for some used bargains on eBay, as I don’t wanna pay 200 quid for one and then another 50 for a braided line.

A local breaker has a k8 gsxr 1000 MC with lever, reservoir, braided lines etc for 100 quid. Do they fit as everyone seems to only talk about r600 and 750’s?

I was just gunna get some new pads and braided lines but thought I might as well get a new MC in there at the same time. I hear they are easier to bleed too.
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Old 03-01-20, 05:37 PM   #2
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Fitting to what bike? An SV?
R1 and GSXR will be radial front brakes / mc etc. SV is axial brakes.
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Fitting to what bike? An SV?
R1 and GSXR will be radial front brakes / mc etc. SV is axial brakes.
So?
You can still fit one you just wouldn't get the maximum benefit, it's still a 'better' technology.


It 'probably will', the problem physically is whether it will clear the fairing if you have an 'S'. It does on mine but I do have slightly different clipons.

The problem braking wise is the bore of the mastercylinder. And the bores varied on different Yams. Ask them what bore it is and compare.
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That said there's nothing wrong with the SV masterclinder, especially if you;re on the SV 2pot brakes. You could save yourself even more money and not replace it. I would get the braided lines though if you don't have them.

You'd probably notice a bigger difference for the money in refurbing your calipers with new seals etc - if you've never done it.
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You'd probably notice a bigger difference for the money in refurbing your calipers with new seals etc - if you've never done it.
Absolutely this. Nothing at all wrong with a well serviced set of SV brakes. They're more than a match for the bike.
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I thought the "etc" was referring to the caliper too.
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Braided lines and EBC HH pads on the front and I never had any issues with the SV stock brakes. I'm not fast rider though.
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ItÂ’s on a K4 SV650S.

IÂ’ll start with a brake service as I donÂ’t know what shape they are in. IÂ’ll throw in a set of EBCÂ’s and some braided lines and go from there. I thought that radial master cylinders, such as brembos and nissins was a good upgrade for feel and bite. With the R6 ones dropping straight in.

I gave it a service the other month and changed brake fluid etc which was an improvement but I didnÂ’t give the brakes much attention. IÂ’ll have a read into how to service them and get it done .
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ItÂ’s on a K4 SV650S.

IÂ’ll start with a brake service as I donÂ’t know what shape they are in. IÂ’ll throw in a set of EBCÂ’s and some braided lines and go from there. I thought that radial master cylinders, such as brembos and nissins was a good upgrade for feel and bite. With the R6 ones dropping straight in.

I gave it a service the other month and changed brake fluid etc which was an improvement but I didnÂ’t give the brakes much attention. IÂ’ll have a read into how to service them and get it done .
Just to add. It's quite common on most modern bikes for riders to rely only on the Front brake. This can lead to the rear brake seizing over time through lack of use.

I still cover both brakes but mainly use my rear brake with my Front brake in slow traffic for stability and then I know it's getting used as well. It does no harm using both when you feel like it.

I have well maintained stock brakes and no Braided lines and I bet a I could do a,"Stoppy" if I wanted to that's more than enough for me
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Old 04-01-20, 03:43 PM   #10
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I use my rear brake all the time too. I was taught to use it all the time when slow manoeuvring or crawling along like you said. Although my dad has been riding a long time and he said he rarely ever uses his as he wasn't taught to.

My bike could never do a "stoppy". The brakes aren't poor but they are definitely not good.

EBC sintered HH pads are on the way and Hel lines. The bike seems well maintained, plenty of receipts, but i don't know when the brakes were last looked at. I've recently done an oil and coolant change, filters and brake fluid. It did improve the brakes, but not significantly. I'm just watching videos and reading online now about servicing my calipers. I like learning to do everything for myself, it's all part of the fun for me. I've found a service kit on wemoto for 34 quid to replace everything in the calipers. Is this a bad deal? it's not a lot to know everything is in order but if i'm being ripped off let me know.

Also, without trying to go off topic, when do you get valve clearances etc looked at? Is it something you should just get done when you get a used bike, or are they symptoms or mileage intervals etc. I don't fancy taking that one on myself yet until the garage is built
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