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07-09-05, 12:21 PM | #1 |
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Congestion Charge
A work colleague heard that Ken Livingstone wanted to roll out the congestion charge to Motorcycles.
He sent the Mayors office an email asking the question and they responded below. I was going to post it before but I forgot. Sorry! Our Ref: TfL 42332 Dear Mr Taylor Thank you for your e-mail to the Mayor concerning the congestion charge and motorbikes. I have been asked to reply on his behalf. I would like to confirm that both motorcycles and scooters are exempt from the congestion charge because they do not cause congestion. Mr Livingstone also wishes to make it crystal clear that he has absolutely no intention whatsoever of making scooters and motorcycles pay the congestion charge. Indeed, despite the increase in numbers of motorbikes and scooters in the zone, there continues to be a decline in the number of accidents involving powered two-wheelers since the introduction of the scheme. In terms of letting motorbikes use bus lanes, there are concerns about the impact on other vulnerable road users; notably cyclists who currently use bus lanes, and pedestrians crossing the road. At the same time, TfL are very concerned at the high numbers of powered two wheeler users involved in road crashes. There are locations where motorbikes share bus lanes outside London, but there is a lack of sound monitoring information and as little is known about the impacts, it was decided to undertake trials. TfL received approval from the Department for Transport (DfT), in September 2002, for three trial schemes to allow powered two wheelers to use London's bus lanes during the hours of operation, which have been operating for just over a year. The locations of the three trial bus lane schemes include the stretch of road you refer to, as follows: · The A41 Finchley Road (between the junctions of Queens Grove /Marlborough Place and Platt's Lane/Fortune Green Road). · The A13 East India Dock Road (between Abbott Road and Butcher Row East). · The A23 Streatham High Road/Brixton Hill (between Streatham Common South and Camberwell New Road). A thorough evaluation of all of London's bus lanes took place before deciding to use these three sites. TfL agreed a methodology and monitoring regime, in consultation with the DfT, to help to inform both the London and national debate on this issue. Since the schemes implementation TfL has been closely monitoring the impacts that the trial schemes have on casualties, vehicle speeds, journey times and usage. A review is due to take place in the summer where it is anticipated that there will be sufficient data for determining the potential benefits and disadvantages. At this time a decision will be made on whether it is appropriate to make the schemes permanent and whether wider application should be considered. Yours sincerely Jasmine Howard Central Customer Services
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07-09-05, 12:47 PM | #2 |
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Wasn't there an article about congestion charge for bikes in the veening std a few months ago and was later denied by the authories, ie they had no intention of introducing CC for bikes. Not sure about this argument that the use of Bus lanes is a danger to Bicycles, the buses are prolly a BIGGER threat to cyclists
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07-09-05, 02:02 PM | #3 |
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Hmm East India Dock Road, got a penalty notice for riding in that 2 months ago, finally got the letter today saying it'd had been cancelled
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07-09-05, 04:14 PM | #4 |
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So outside of london I can ride in bus lanes and no car lanes is that correct?
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08-09-05, 07:31 AM | #5 | |
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Huh?? I had 3 fines in June for being in Bus lanes in N London |
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The only sure way is to check the signs. |
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08-09-05, 08:21 AM | #7 |
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I knew it wasn't allowed fo bikes, but have been using the bus lanes for 2 yrs and suddenly in June they decided to start issuing fines, may be its cuz too many of us were using the Bus lanes and they figured they could get a handsome amount of money!
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08-09-05, 07:48 PM | #8 |
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LOOK AT THE SIGNS
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08-09-05, 09:09 PM | #9 |
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Depends on the authority. Though I read on another forum Westminster have begun to allow bikes in bus lanes and are now signing accordingly with a view to all authorities allowing it.
Never got a ticket on the A13 in over a year using the bus lane between 7 - 10 am or 4 - 7 pm. |
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