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19-06-06, 06:18 PM

Had a chance to get out for 2 weeks continuous.............commuting :O

Along with a few weekends and evenings over our warm & dry spell there.

Still not 100% comfortable with the filtering on the old motorway at rush hour so I

was looking for some hints/ tips, advice even the basic do's and don'ts from the

more "experienced" folks here.

Did notice some car drivers hate you for it, pull right over onto the lane dividing

line and spit fire at you if you even suggest you might just ease on past them.

At the moment, in almost stationary traffic, I keep the spped at roughly 20mph.

What lane discipline applies when filtering, at the moment I just follow the other

two wheelers, generally that's been left side of outside lane?

Thanks in advance.

Red ones · 19-06-06, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cam_73

at the moment I just follow the other

two wheelers, generally that's been left side of outside lane?

That's probably rule #1 sorted
Rule #2 is don't bother following couriers - they are nutters
Rule #3 is look up and look ahead
Rule #4 is "If you feel uncomfortable it is probably getting dodgy"

19-06-06, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red ones

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cam_73

at the moment I just follow the other

two wheelers, generally that's been left side of outside lane?

That's probably rule #1 sorted
Rule #2 is don't bother following couriers - they are nutters
Rule #3 is look up and look ahead
Rule #4 is "If you feel uncomfortable it is probably getting dodgy"

Really

I find they get in my way and wont, no matter how obvious it is that you want to get past, move out of the way.

19-06-06, 07:17 PM

Thanks Red.

Yeah, usually scanning ahead for the usual signs of queue boredom.

Wheels turning, hands moving, I never expect to see an indicator.

So far I haven't been surprised.

I know I am not the fastest filter, when I've had other bikes appear, when

possible, I move to the first gap, if there's not enough space, to let them through.

Hope that's the correct ettiquette.

"Strangely" the most recent evening of utter lunacy was the England/ Trinidad game, can't think why :O

3-4 miles on M8 through Glasgow. Decided to tuck in and wait half way through,

too many lane jumpers and wanderers.

Big Bad Al · 19-06-06, 07:26 PM

I think your wise to do the 20mph filtering - some will have you beleive it is safe to hack along much quicker, but that's asking for trouble IMO. Maybe not this year, or next year, but sometime. I get couriers, scooter kids etc ripping past me all the time. I pretty much filter from Uxbridge to Ealing along the A40 every day and have done so for the past 6 years. 20mph when traffic is gridlocked. I've seen a few off's in that time but thankfully haven't been involved myself. I also wear a bright yellow vest and full cordura protective suit even on the hottest days.
Not particuarly trendy looking, and not the quickest SV rider that ever lived, but that's the way I've chosen to do it.

Just my views! Safe riding!

Al

19-06-06, 07:39 PM

Thanks guys.

Yeah, it was 22-23 degrees last week.

Slow moving in traffic in a full HG Celtic suit.

Lets just say it was kind a warm and moist.

Balky001 · 19-06-06, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigApe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red ones

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cam_73

at the moment I just follow the other

two wheelers, generally that's been left side of outside lane?

That's probably rule #1 sorted
Rule #2 is don't bother following couriers - they are nutters
Rule #3 is look up and look ahead
Rule #4 is "If you feel uncomfortable it is probably getting dodgy"

Really

I find they get in my way and wont, no matter how obvious it is that you want to get past, move out of the way.

Cam_73, if you see someone on one wheel overtaking couriers, well I'd hold back a bit

Sid Squid · 19-06-06, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red ones

Rule #2 is don't bother following couriers - they are nutters"

Err...no, they're just better than you - think about it, you spend eight or ten hours a day doing something you get quite polished at it.

PS. Don't follow me through town - you're not going to like it.

rictus01 · 19-06-06, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Squid

PS. Don't follow me through town - you're not going to like it.

One rule and one rule only,

Observational speed, don't exceed your own and don't travel at someones elses.

Cheers Mark.

20-06-06, 08:03 AM

I did a few days extra training a few months back and asked about filtering, the advice given was no more than 15-20mph past stationery traffic.

Personally I find taking regular breaks help, especially when you are starting to feel uncomfortable. I do find there are days when all cage drivers seem to be infected with the same irratic madness and have just given up on a lot of filtering as its not worth it.

Go at the speed you feel comfortable and keep an eye out for other bikers coming up behind you, when you get a chance, move in and let them through.

I tend to avoid the herds of bikers if possible, it seems that it brings out the worst in riders and it can get a bit competitive.

19-06-06, 07:26 PM	#5
Big Bad Al Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: West London Posts: 188	I think your wise to do the 20mph filtering - some will have you beleive it is safe to hack along much quicker, but that's asking for trouble IMO. Maybe not this year, or next year, but sometime. I get couriers, scooter kids etc ripping past me all the time. I pretty much filter from Uxbridge to Ealing along the A40 every day and have done so for the past 6 years. 20mph when traffic is gridlocked. I've seen a few off's in that time but thankfully haven't been involved myself. I also wear a bright yellow vest and full cordura protective suit even on the hottest days. Not particuarly trendy looking, and not the quickest SV rider that ever lived, but that's the way I've chosen to do it. Just my views! Safe riding! Al __________________ SFV650 in black with Evotech tailtidy, R&G Aeros and Heated Grips, Puig fly screen, Pipe Werx GP style race exhaust. Whoop! Previously.... Black SVS - DHM's Heated Grips Airblade Iridium Double Bubble Screen Beowulf end can and Evotech tailtidy. 3/7/2004 - 26/6/2015.

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19-06-06, 06:18 PM	#1
Cam_73 Guest Posts: n/a	Filter this!!!! Had a chance to get out for 2 weeks continuous.............commuting :O Along with a few weekends and evenings over our warm & dry spell there. Still not 100% comfortable with the filtering on the old motorway at rush hour so I was looking for some hints/ tips, advice even the basic do's and don'ts from the more "experienced" folks here. Did notice some car drivers hate you for it, pull right over onto the lane dividing line and spit fire at you if you even suggest you might just ease on past them. At the moment, in almost stationary traffic, I keep the spped at roughly 20mph. What lane discipline applies when filtering, at the moment I just follow the other two wheelers, generally that's been left side of outside lane? Thanks in advance.

19-06-06, 07:17 PM	#4
Cam_73 Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks Red. Yeah, usually scanning ahead for the usual signs of queue boredom. Wheels turning, hands moving, I never expect to see an indicator. So far I haven't been surprised. I know I am not the fastest filter, when I've had other bikes appear, when possible, I move to the first gap, if there's not enough space, to let them through. Hope that's the correct ettiquette. "Strangely" the most recent evening of utter lunacy was the England/ Trinidad game, can't think why :O 3-4 miles on M8 through Glasgow. Decided to tuck in and wait half way through, too many lane jumpers and wanderers.

19-06-06, 07:39 PM	#6
Cam_73 Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks guys. Yeah, it was 22-23 degrees last week. Slow moving in traffic in a full HG Celtic suit. Lets just say it was kind a warm and moist.

20-06-06, 08:03 AM	#10
Kate Guest Posts: n/a	I did a few days extra training a few months back and asked about filtering, the advice given was no more than 15-20mph past stationery traffic. Personally I find taking regular breaks help, especially when you are starting to feel uncomfortable. I do find there are days when all cage drivers seem to be infected with the same irratic madness and have just given up on a lot of filtering as its not worth it. Go at the speed you feel comfortable and keep an eye out for other bikers coming up behind you, when you get a chance, move in and let them through. I tend to avoid the herds of bikers if possible, it seems that it brings out the worst in riders and it can get a bit competitive.