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Old 02-09-10, 09:03 AM   #1
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Default Batteries don't last in my bike - causes?

Hi All!

I have a problem with my curvy 2000 that is doing my head in. I bought it 3 years ago with no reported problems but have had this intermittently ever since....

My bike seems to quite literally EAT my battery!!

I get a new one, it's fine, then 6 months later suddenly I have starting issues now again, then all the time, and the battery won't charge or optimate enough to start the bike regularly, then not at all. At the moment the current one won't get over 12.6v when I charge or optimate on or off the bike, so it's off the road until I get a new one, AGAIN!

I'm going to crack open the Voltmeter and do some charging system testing (any ideas here?!), and I'll post up the results, but I need to do it with a new fresh battery which will be in the post.

I always get Yausa batteries, have also tried the one for the pointy, no joy. It seems to happen as much when the bike gets ridden every day or every week, it goes on optimate fairly regularly if not ridden, I have a datatool cat 4 alarm fitted, standard lights, everything else pretty standard.

Has anyone heard of anything like this? If it could be the reg/rec frying the battery, how can you test it?!

Help, because I LOVE my bike but this is making it too unreliable to keep!!

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Old 02-09-10, 09:06 AM   #2
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Default Re: Battery Killer - Help!

Yeah check the charging system, it could be undercharging. Or the alarm could be killing it for you.
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Old 02-09-10, 09:23 AM   #3
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Also, I've had the alarm fitter come back and check it and say it's all ok, how else could I check it myself?
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Old 02-09-10, 09:27 AM   #4
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Default Re: Battery Killer - Help!

Put a volt meter across it and measure what voltage you're getting at idle and 5k rpm.

Also, put it in series and measure the current with the ignition switched off to see if you have a current leak.

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Old 02-09-10, 09:43 AM   #5
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TAKE THE NEGATIVE LEAD OFF THE BATTERY AND SET YOUR METER TO mA. THEN PUT ONEEND ON THE BATTER -VE AND ONE ON THE -VE LAED OF THE BATTERY. ANYTHING OVER 0.2A AND YOU HAVE SOMETHING DRAINING YOUR BATTERY.

IF OK CHECK THE REGREC (SAERCH FUNCTION) AS THIS CAN CAUSE THE BATTERY TO UNDER/OVER CHARGE. dOES THE BATTERY GET HOT? LOOK DAMAGED ETC?
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Old 02-09-10, 09:52 AM   #6
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I take it that the <200mA is what an alarm is normally using?

Or did you mean to say "anything over 0.2mA"

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Old 02-09-10, 12:41 PM   #7
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Sorry anything over 0.2a
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Old 03-09-10, 11:09 AM   #8
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regulator/rectifier ? If its over charging it will knacker it as fast as if its under charging
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Old 03-09-10, 05:13 PM   #9
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It sounds very much like your regulator/rectifier has failed. To explain a bit: the generator produces alternating current in 3 phases (3 different oscillating electrical flows) then the rectifier converts and combines them to direct current using a number of diodes. If one diode fails it allows some of the alternating current through to mix with the direct current which gradually does the battery in. Its difficult to detect without specialised instruments because the direct current voltage doesnt change much so substitution of the reg/rect. is the easiest way with a pattern part costing around 50quid. The diodes have a habit of failing if the rectifier is not well cooled or they are overloaded charging a flat battery after bump starting the bike. Hope this helps glang.
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Old 03-09-10, 08:55 PM   #10
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Hey,

Thanks for all your replies about this! I am hoping my latest new battery will arrive very soon so I can do some testing - but am I right in thinking if it is my reg/rec then nothing much will show up anyway?? I'm seriously thinking about getting a new one anyway from all these replies!

There is definitely not a leak in the circuit when the bike is off, I tried putting the multimeter in series already. . .

Will keep you posted!

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