Garages

[Dave20046]

I was pretty much set on building a 30m2, cavity wall, block/brick garage...but now I'm looking at timber costs and aesthetics and seem to be undoing my decision.
Anyone know much about garages (including planning permission in England)?

I'd wanted brick built mainly for weather resistance (damp!) and security, but also weight bearing for engine lifts etc. I'd also noticed in planning permission it said to be withing 2m of a boundary (which it will be) it can't be built of a majority material which is combustable. But I've seen people claiming timber buildings are 'temporary', so that doesn't apply. WWOD?

[aj76]

Couple of mates got a free concrete sectional garages off Facebook marketplace they just had to take them down and remove them. Steels beams holding up the roof.

When I was looking at extensions iirc there is something that any extensions to original property and outbuilding, including temporary structures can only occupy a maximum of 1/3 of the remaining land

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[Dave20046]

It's going to be stand alone, not an extension of anything existing. But in any case it is under a third luckily.

Good shout on the market place/sectional stuff, but would surely have to insulate those to stop damp?

[Bibio]

2m boundary only applies to over 1.6mt on boundary.


let me explain. if the wall/roof pitch of your garage is over 1.6mt at 1mt from the next door boundary then you need permission. if its more than 50% of the total garden space then again you need permission. if its on the gable end of a property and the entrance of the garage is front facing then it needs planning permission.

[Dave20046]

Ah , from what I’d read it was fine up to 4m with pitched roof but I didn’t see anything in ref to the boundary . Cheers bib I’ll check that, I probably could bring it 1m away from the boundary

[Bibio]

unless its a flat roof at over 1.6mt. if its a pitched roof then its 1mt in and 1.6mt up (it might be 2.2 as i cant remember) in an L shape.

[Dave20046]

Appears I'd been reading norn irish planning rules, thanks Google.

But I do interpret what I can find on the uk site as a 2.5m max height where within 2m of a boundary (and by boundary I mean garden wall not the neightbouring house)

https://interactive.planningportal.c...outbuildings/8

[Bibio]

you have to remember that not all councils are the same. phone or email your local planning department and ask them. its designed to confuse the laymen so they employ the service of a solicitor.

[Dave20046]

Cheers Lance

What do you think to materials?

If I moved it two metres over from the boundary I could have a wooden one. It's just whether it's dry and strong enough

https://www.quick-garden.co.uk/woode...ft-44-mm.html#


or non combustable I guess concrete or metal

https://www.steelgarages-uk.co.uk/pr...ulated-garage/

https://www.leisurebuildings.com/pro.../#.Xw8R4ShKh1s

[Seeker]

Originally Posted by Dave20046

https://www.leisurebuildings.com/pro.../#.Xw8R4ShKh1s

I bought one of the Pent Mansard garages from Lidget Compton last year. The Grimsby agent (who lives in Doncaster) was responsible for the concrete base. It was installed when we had that exceptionally wet period last Sept-Oct and I had problems with damp coming under the walls. Lidget and the agent were eager to resolve the problem and an extra fillet was added internally plus a concrete sealant. Since I'm a pessimist I then applied a liquid damp proof membrane (DPM) around the edges and then a 2 part polyurethane paint over the whole floor - decided I didn't like the painted floor and used plastic tiles.


Initially the garage was very damp - (I keep a hygrometer in there) so I bought a dessicant dehumidifier and kept the bike in its "oxygen" tent at a constant 60%rH
After a few months the garage humidity dropped to outside levels. The roof is supported by metal beams but you couldn't hang anything heavy from them. You can't screw into the walls either.

The garage works and looks pretty good but I can't say I'm impressed by the construction - the panels are held together by long bolts but each panel is vertically reinforced at the edges and is finished at a 45° angle - so the bolt that pulls the panels together bends under tension - they should supply 45° wedges so that the bolt is pulled squarely, imho.