Immigration Policy

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works for Oz.. why the hell not for us..

sure should.... wish I had enough points for oz

[Viney]

Having seen both side of the UK's immigration, 1st off we need to get staff that actually give a sh*t about what they are doing. These people are affecting lives. Secondly the government actually need to stick to thier current policy. Thirdly we as a country need to take a step back and get off our high horses about it all. Ok, there are a lot of people that come into this contry just to sponge off the state. There are however also people that come he ligitimatly and get treated like sh*t.

No matter what policy they innitiate, its not going to work if the staff dont understand, and the governemnt dont enforce it. The UK is, sadly, seen as a soft touch to the rest of the world, and thats out problem. We spend too much time processing these people. In todays world where we have the world at our keyboard, the whole process takes whey to long, and should in reality take no more than 4 weeks.

Being to the home office on many occasions, its easy to see why it does take so long. Everything is paper based. Ferried between offices by courier, none of the offices are linked. It is a nightmare, and will not get better until the entire immigration depratments, and systems are overhauled.

This is just one of these 'bogey men' topics that the political parties and willing media trot out periodically to frighten voters into voting for them and justify ill thought out schemes.

It appears the 'war on terror' and 'asylum seekers' are the in vogue whipping boys at the moment. 'Single mums' and 'benefit scroungers' being distinctly out of fashion, having enjoyed a good few years at the top of the charts in the 90s!

Don't get me started on this

Abso-bloody-lutely!

[pegasus]

dangerous topic - whatever i say is gonna be wrong.

i do have my opinions, but, i really dont think shouting them is gonna make any difference whatsoever.


just 1 point though..if we instate a points system whats to stop other countries doing it to us.

[Spiderman]

As a foreigner who fled his country to come here i have to say yes.

i was only 6 at the time but if we had followed the example of those who treat this courty as a soft touch then my mum would now own a council flat (or 2) that she would have taken the right to buy for.... and sold and made a healthy profit on...all thanks to people who paid taxes here for years before we ever came here.

Thankfuly we dont come from that sort of background. Its more a case of stand on your own two feet and dont excpect anything you didnt work to achieve.

There are times i wish i had milked this counrty for all its worth.... the times i see how other have done just that and dont even work (legitemately) for a living.

I can understand how a "true brit" would be bloody annoyed about all the inconsistencies in the system that sees others above their own population. How that can be right i dont know, but that seems to be what this country believes is the right thing to do.

My 2p worth

Interesting discussion about this on the radio this morning.

Seems that not many people realise that we "export" a fair few of our own and, more importantly, most of those we "import" come in from the EU and are here perfectly legally as economic migrants.

International law requires that we take our "fair share" of genuine assylum seekers (as opposed to economic migrants).

I suspect that the real issue is that we are bad at sorting out the economic migrants from the genuine assylum seekers.

However, the question is about whether or not we should have a points-based immigration system and it's therefore a question of economic migration only. So I vote "Yes" (despite this being contrary to EU law )

Originally Posted by Viney

Having seen both side of the UK's immigration, 1st off we need to get staff that actually give a sh*t about what they are doing. These people are affecting lives. Secondly the government actually need to stick to thier current policy. Thirdly we as a country need to take a step back and get off our high horses about it all. Ok, there are a lot of people that come into this contry just to sponge off the state. There are however also people that come he ligitimatly and get treated like sh*t.

No matter what policy they innitiate, its not going to work if the staff dont understand, and the governemnt dont enforce it. The UK is, sadly, seen as a soft touch to the rest of the world, and thats out problem. We spend too much time processing these people. In todays world where we have the world at our keyboard, the whole process takes whey to long, and should in reality take no more than 4 weeks.

Being to the home office on many occasions, its easy to see why it does take so long. Everything is paper based. Ferried between offices by courier, none of the offices are linked. It is a nightmare, and will not get better until the entire immigration depratments, and systems are overhauled.

this hurts.

but i agree with Viney

going for a lie down now