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13-04-15, 04:30 PM | #21 | |
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Gone are the days of cycling proficiency tests, or schools teaching kids as part of the curriculum. My daughter school does an after school cycling club, to teach the kids some road sense, but this is rare. I did my cycling proficiency test in the school holidays over 40 years ago, does it still exist? I really dont know how you inform and educate these city cyclists, full page ads in the Metro or Evening Standard? Regular tv ads in the London area?
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13-04-15, 04:53 PM | #22 |
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Surely the only possibility is having a licence and cyclists getting fined for running red lights, railway crossing barriers etc and even undertaking lorries etc. wouldn't be popular and may reduce people cycling on the road but if it keeps people alive it may be worth it.
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13-04-15, 05:07 PM | #23 | |
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where do you start with the licence, kids? Again another reason why govenment won't licence cyclists. it needs a change in culture, both from vehicle drivers AND cyclists. Denmark changed their laws to make vehicle drivers at fault for accidents invovling pedestrians and cyclists, unless proved otherwise, which reduced the accidents between these groups, as car drivers drove less aggressively.
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As others have said in this thread, lorry drivers aren't (always) being aggressive - they just can't see. It needs cyclists to learn how to behave around lorries, surely? Could lorries be forced to have cameras around them if they're driving in cities for example? Doesn't sound feasible to me (largely because of foreign lorries). |
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I think the only way you'll solve the problem is to have a very loud siren on each side of the trailer which comes on with the indicator - you'd have no cases of not seeing the indicator then. Couple it with radar like parking sensors so that both sides are fully aware of what is happening, and then the rest is natural selection... |
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13-04-15, 07:26 PM | #26 |
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I like that idea but as the emergency services are under pressure to not use sirens in built up areas (which almost lead me to being hit by a police car), I'm not sure it'd be allowed in places like London. Consider what it'd be like if a lorry was in a queue at traffic lights.
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They won't licence dogs, let alone cyclists (Although some folk think they are the same breed ) Adults tend to have some form of ID on them Quote:
A start needs to be made somewhere. Just think how long it took to introduce compulsory seat belt wearing
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I'm afraid I'm coming around to the way of think that we shouldn't be trying to do anything about it. We spend far to much time and effort trying to protect people from themselves. If people want to do stupid things then perhaps they should be allowed to take the consequences. Cycling in heavy traffic can be dangerous, just about anyone you ask will tell you that, so why is it that people who cycle in London don't take steps to make sure they are aware of some of the risks and how to avoid them?
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13-04-15, 09:43 PM | #29 |
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All the talk about special segregated cycle lane's won't work either as there is no law making them use them, the same retards now that undertake, shuffle along between lorries and railings and run reds and crossings will carry on doing it as the 'cycle' lanes will probably be too congested and slow for them.
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London would be a much cleaner and more pleasant city if everyone cycled everywhere. But in order to achieve this, you need to make it safe - even for idiots. Mixing cycles and powered vehicles in the same limited space is obviously very risky, so they're trying to keep them apart as much as possible. If everyone that could possibly cycle did cycle, then would we still have traffic congestion issues? And I'm not even a cyclist. Perhaps I should put my money where my mouth is and give it a go.
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