Should we kill healthy people for their organs? - SV650.org

21-11-08, 02:28 PM

See Below and discuss.... Enjoy

Suppose Bill is a healthy man without family or loved ones. Would it be ok painlessly to kill him if his organs would save five people, one of whom needs a heart, another a kidney, and so on? If not, why not?
Consider another case: you and six others are kidnapped, and the kidnapper somehow persuades you that if you shoot dead one of the other hostages, he will set the remaining five free, whereas if you do not, he will shoot all six. (Either way, he'll release you.)
If in this case you should kill one to save five, why not in the previous, organs case? If in this case too you have qualms, consider yet another: you're in the cab of a runaway tram and see five people tied to the track ahead. You have the option of sending the tram on to the track forking off to the left, on which only one person is tied. Surely you should send the tram left, killing one to save five.
But then why not kill Bill?

Mr Speirs · 21-11-08, 02:34 PM

Those are all situations where someone is forceing you to make the choice and giving you the power of live of die.

In real life however no one has the ability or power to grant someone the power of life or death.

Whats Bill ever done to you anyway??? Poor Bill.

21-11-08, 02:35 PM

it's all about choice!
To kill or not to kill
To kill Bill is murder, without question!
In the kidnapping & tram cases it is far more difficult, however your forgetting that there is always more than two choices in every situation, they are not always so obvious. An example - Stop the tram in anyway that you can.

_Stretchie_ · 21-11-08, 02:40 PM

Is there something you want to tell us?

21-11-08, 03:06 PM

are you mad?

_Stretchie_ · 21-11-08, 03:14 PM

Yes mate he is, as a fellow Manc you can trust me on this

dizzyblonde · 21-11-08, 03:15 PM

Kill Bill 2?

_Stretchie_ · 21-11-08, 03:27 PM

Kill Bill too.

So Dizzy, you want us to kill Bill AND Bill?

21-11-08, 03:28 PM

Killing anybody is murder, whether in self defence or not. So no, It is not right to kill somebody for there organs.

SoulKiss · 21-11-08, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave

Killing anybody is murder, whether in self defence or not. So no, It is not right to kill somebody for there organs.

What about other musical instruments?

21-11-08, 02:28 PM	#1
Viper Guest Posts: n/a	Should we kill healthy people for their organs? See Below and discuss.... Enjoy Suppose Bill is a healthy man without family or loved ones. Would it be ok painlessly to kill him if his organs would save five people, one of whom needs a heart, another a kidney, and so on? If not, why not? Consider another case: you and six others are kidnapped, and the kidnapper somehow persuades you that if you shoot dead one of the other hostages, he will set the remaining five free, whereas if you do not, he will shoot all six. (Either way, he'll release you.) If in this case you should kill one to save five, why not in the previous, organs case? If in this case too you have qualms, consider yet another: you're in the cab of a runaway tram and see five people tied to the track ahead. You have the option of sending the tram on to the track forking off to the left, on which only one person is tied. Surely you should send the tram left, killing one to save five. But then why not kill Bill?

21-11-08, 02:34 PM	#2
Mr Speirs Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Northampton Posts: 2,218	Re: Should we kill healthy people for their organs? Those are all situations where someone is forceing you to make the choice and giving you the power of live of die. In real life however no one has the ability or power to grant someone the power of life or death. Whats Bill ever done to you anyway??? Poor Bill. __________________ Smokey Black Burnty 02 - Racetech Smoulderlators + .90kg BBQ Springs, zx10r shockingly toasted, Conti Road Attacks heat up very nicely, R&G Crash Bungs but what f**king use are they, No Colour Matched Hugger, Flame Extenda, Beowulf Titainium Oval Flame Thrower.

21-11-08, 02:35 PM	#3
slark01 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Should we kill healthy people for their organs? it's all about choice! To kill or not to kill To kill Bill is murder, without question! In the kidnapping & tram cases it is far more difficult, however your forgetting that there is always more than two choices in every situation, they are not always so obvious. An example - Stop the tram in anyway that you can.

21-11-08, 02:40 PM	#4
_Stretchie_ Large Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minsterworth, Gloucester Posts: 2,353	Re: Should we kill healthy people for their organs? Is there something you want to tell us? __________________ How to amuze an idiot: Look right-> <-Look Left

21-11-08, 03:06 PM	#5
600+ Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Should we kill healthy people for their organs? are you mad?

21-11-08, 03:14 PM	#6
_Stretchie_ Large Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minsterworth, Gloucester Posts: 2,353	Re: Should we kill healthy people for their organs? Yes mate he is, as a fellow Manc you can trust me on this __________________ How to amuze an idiot: Look right-> <-Look Left

21-11-08, 03:15 PM	#7
dizzyblonde Da Cake Boss Mega Poster Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a flying Horse Posts: 9,992	Re: Should we kill healthy people for their organs? Kill Bill 2? __________________ Suzy, yellow 2001 SVS. Kitty, V-Raptor 1000, ZZR1400<<its my bike now Pegasus! Hovis 13.8.75-3.10.09 Reeder 20.7.88-21.3.12

21-11-08, 03:27 PM	#8
_Stretchie_ Large Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minsterworth, Gloucester Posts: 2,353	Re: Should we kill healthy people for their organs? Kill Bill too. So Dizzy, you want us to kill Bill AND Bill? __________________ How to amuze an idiot: Look right-> <-Look Left

21-11-08, 03:28 PM	#9
Dangerous Dave Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Should we kill healthy people for their organs? Killing anybody is murder, whether in self defence or not. So no, It is not right to kill somebody for there organs.

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