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Old 06-03-14, 03:46 PM   #41
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Just to clarify. It was different garage that had it for the aux belts.
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Old 06-03-14, 04:18 PM   #42
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Surely if the original garage failed in their service and only changed one of the two belts then they should be paying as if they had done their job properly then all this would of been avoided?

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Old 06-03-14, 04:31 PM   #43
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In an ideal world. Probably won't happen.

I have had it confirmed though that the belt that failed was the outer belt. They will have had to remove it to replace the one they did and then put it back.

Doesn't sound like a coincidence to me.
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Old 06-03-14, 07:15 PM   #44
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Get a second quote for the repair work, that sounds a lot for a few new valves, which are quite cheap to buy.
What about looking for a 2nd hand replacement head? Be cheaper to swap a head than rebuild one.
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Old 06-03-14, 07:27 PM   #45
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Garage has been in touch. I had car in to have aux belts replaced two days before timing belt failure.

Garage only replaced one. The other belts they had were wrong size and didn't replace other belt. This belt failed and took out timing belt. Valves all bent. Head has to be rebuilt.

So a £30 job is now costing me £1700.
I'd ask Ford for a price and haggle the hell out of it (join their service plan and you get a discount on labour and parts {20% I think})
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Old 06-03-14, 07:29 PM   #46
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MBK, sorry to hear about this, hope you get a cost effective solution. Good luck!
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Old 06-03-14, 07:46 PM   #47
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Get a second quote for the repair work, that sounds a lot for a few new valves, which are quite cheap to buy.

What about looking for a 2nd hand replacement head? Be cheaper to swap a head than rebuild one.

It's due to it being the ST model Phil. The quote is reasonable.
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Old 06-03-14, 08:17 PM   #48
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Sorry old girl but it obviously confirms what my mate said about a "Contributory factor"




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Old 06-03-14, 08:43 PM   #49
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It's due to it being the ST model Phil. The quote is reasonable.
Yeah I'd expect a bit more but valves are still valves, I bet the valves are the same as used in standard models.

My mate had his v6 Audi rebuilt with all new valves and belts etc for less than that.

Trouble is they have you over a barrel and being a female customer, they have probably piled it on, in fairness unless you're clued up, there's no way of you or anyone else checking to see what they are telling you is correct.
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Old 06-03-14, 08:55 PM   #50
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Phil, don't imply that I'm an idiot because I'm female.

The recovery was almost £200, it's taken 4 hours to strip cylinder head so another £120 before we even start, the cost of the parts (shims and valves) are £400, then the labour for the rebuild of the head, then new belts and I can't remember if he said I needed a new pump or not. So no, I don't think I'm being scammed or that they are being unreasonable. A 2nd hand head is not cheaper than the rebuild. It was an option that was looked at.

The T5 engine is known to be labour intensive in these sort of situations.
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