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Old 10-04-22, 10:00 PM   #2641
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Ah well, if it has had 2 previous owners who knows what they might have done !
ps having said that, at that mileage it will still be under warranty won't it ,how old is the bike ?

It's 7 years old now so I'm sure the warranty is long gone. As I've got a new shock arriving next week anyhow, I'm not too bothered but it is a bit ****.

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Old 11-04-22, 12:04 PM   #2642
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I didn't realise paraffin was water soluble. I was expecting it to leave an oily residue but if seems to wash off quite easily with soapy water.

My usual cleaning routine on the motorcycle was to clean with white spirit to get rid of the worse of the mess in the chain area and then use a degreaser to remove any remaining dirt. Looks like I'll be using your approach in future

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Paraffin isn't water soluble is it ?!
I use paraffin to clean the chain but the owners handbook says don't use kerosene. What is kerosene - I thought it was what the Americans called paraffin? !
I cleaned the chain a few weeks ago and rubbed gear oil on it ( I also have a Scottoiler fitted ) but it seemed gungy so I cleaned it again and rubbed Scottoiler blue oil over it .Haven't ridden it since though as I am waiting for a new shock absorber.
Scottoiler oil has some tacky anti fling properties that gear oil doesn't have.
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Old 11-04-22, 12:26 PM   #2643
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Paraffin isn't water soluble is it ?!
Wouldn't have thought so, but it does mix fairly well. Agitate the bottle before use.

The watering down is just to take the strength down and to wash the loosened crud away.

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Old 11-04-22, 01:42 PM   #2644
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerosene

so whats it called in the UK?
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Old 11-04-22, 04:39 PM   #2645
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerosene

so whats it called in the UK?
We use the words interchangeably but paraffin is slightly more refined than kerosene. Paraffin has been changed to emit fewer odours.

https://www.nationwidefuels.co.uk/oi...sene-paraffin/

There's a nice table in this link that highlights the differences:

https://www.differencebetween.com/di...-and-kerosene/
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Old 11-04-22, 06:40 PM   #2646
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We use the words interchangeably but paraffin is slightly more refined than kerosene. Paraffin has been changed to emit fewer odours.

https://www.nationwidefuels.co.uk/oi...sene-paraffin/

There's a nice table in this link that highlights the differences:

https://www.differencebetween.com/di...-and-kerosene/
So I suppose the question still is- 'is paraffin safe to use on O ring motorcycle chains?'
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Old 11-04-22, 08:06 PM   #2647
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So I suppose the question still is- 'is paraffin safe to use on O ring motorcycle chains?'
I thought it was what the manufacturers always recommended using.
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Old 11-04-22, 08:16 PM   #2648
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I use paraffin to clean the chain but the owners handbook says don't use kerosene.
Which handbook? The Curvy one says the opposite:

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So I suppose the question still is- 'is paraffin safe to use on O ring motorcycle chains?'
I hope so, I've been using it for years.
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yes and the workshop manual states that you should use brake fluid to install calliper seals which we all know is wrong.

the reason we are not to use paraffin and things to clean o'ring chains is that it can "wick" behind the o'rings and destroy the grease. grease removal is the number one cause of chain stretch and seized links. technically you should not use a scotoiler either as the oil does the same but in practise a scotoiler is better. btw chain plates dont stretch its the rollers that wear and the grease dissipates.
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