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Old 02-12-21, 11:52 AM   #1
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Default Older drivers and careless driving

On the face of it the headline sounds bad:

"Older drivers won't get penalty points for running red lights*"
(*or other acts of careless driving)

https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/older...oints-25596956

However, they must take a test to evaulate whether they are still fit to drive and could lose their license if not, so I suppose it is better than giving them points and allowing them to continue.
It's a proposal at this stage.
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Old 02-12-21, 12:30 PM   #2
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Good idea but why just for older drivers? We already use education(at a price) for minor speeding offences so why not expand that for all sorts of minor traffic violations? I seem to recall that older drivers are not regarded as more dangerous than other groups, rather the opposite, so better not to pick on them.
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Old 02-12-21, 03:21 PM   #3
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there are good drivers and bad drivers of all ages. the above is a step in the right direction though. i still say resit every licence renewal for EVERYONE.

a good starting point would be to teach people to actually drive instead of passing an exam.

i find myself shaking my head more and more often while out driving. modern standard of driving is abysmal.
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i still say resit every licence renewal for EVERYONE.
You might change your mind if you had to resit it and failed !
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You might change your mind if you had to resit it and failed !
nope.. would mean that i'm not fit to drive on the road and i would take it on the chin. would mean that i needed to brush up n my driving skills and would take lessons.

for those individuals that constantly fail then a ban should be in order.

i'm sick of paying high insurance premiums due to incompetent drivers.
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nope.. would mean that i'm not fit to drive on the road and i would take it on the chin. would mean that i needed to brush up n my driving skills and would take lessons.

for those individuals that constantly fail then a ban should be in order.

i'm sick of paying high insurance premiums due to incompetent drivers.
Well good luck to anybody getting their licence back from the DVLA when they do pass (if they had been banned for failing initially ) Several years ago I had my licence revoked because of sleep apnoea and it took until August to get it back from DVLA even though I was passed fit to drive in February thanks to CPAP treatment.
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Here's something else we all need to be aware of.
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/3...-left-or-right
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Well the good thing is that the 'Highway Code' is just guidance or 'Best Practice' and not actually law it's self.

It refers to Law in many sections but the rest..............
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Well the good thing is that the 'Highway Code' is just guidance or 'Best Practice' and not actually law it's self.

It refers to Law in many sections but the rest..............

Some of it is law and those bits that are just guidance can put you on the wrong side of the law if you dont follow them and are involved in an incident.
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Here's something else we all need to be aware of.
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/3...-left-or-right
ermm cyclists, horse riders and pedestrians have always had the right of way as they dont have to abide by the "code". its only motorised vehicle drivers that have to abide.

when i was younger one of my mates got charged with "drunk in charge of a pushbike" but the charge was dropped as he was on Queens land and it was not a special Queens constable (we called them parkies) that charged him
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