The Covid19 thread

[Bibio]

Originally Posted by widepants

Wow , not been on here for yrs

nowt else to do is there

[embee]

Ah, right, so the EU wanted to be co-operative with AZ and waived it's right to sue them for failure, and the UK held a big stick over them and said fail us and we'll beat you to death. Nice. Now I understand how the UK works with its "partners".

[Grant66]

Originally Posted by embee

Ah, right, so the EU wanted to be co-operative with AZ and waived it's right to sue them for failure, and the UK held a big stick over them and said fail us and we'll beat you to death. Nice. Now I understand how the UK works with its "partners".

Were they being "co-operative" when the EU invoked article 16?

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[embee]

Article 16 wasn't to do with the company AZ per se, it was a precursor to applying wider export controls out of the EU (the UK then being a third country so included in the proposed control remit leading to the EU/UK border consideration). They admitted it was a mistake and stopped the action within hours, literally, and Von der Leyen stood up and said she deeply regretted that mistakes were made regarding this. It's not something we see from a UK politician very often, they say they are sorry for any upset caused not that they are sorry for doing something wrong.

I think my part in the discussion should probably end here, viewpoints are almost certainly fixed and won't change in either direction and I don't want to be divisive.

[svenrico]

Originally Posted by embee

Article 16 wasn't to do with the company AZ per se, it was a precursor to applying wider export controls out of the EU (the UK then being a third country so included in the proposed control remit leading to the EU/UK border consideration). They admitted it was a mistake and stopped the action within hours, literally, and Von der Leyen stood up and said she deeply regretted that mistakes were made regarding this. It's not something we see from a UK politician very often, they say they are sorry for any upset caused not that they are sorry for doing something wrong.

I think my part in the discussion should probably end here, viewpoints are almost certainly fixed and won't change in either direction and I don't want to be divisive.

I don't know that viewpoints are fixed, I voted remain in the referendum but I haven't liked the look of the EU in recent weeks ! I agree though that it is probably a good time to end this particular discussion on here.

[Seeker]

just when you thought it couldn't get more complicated...

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/british-ta...193218678.html

... awkward

[Bibio]

Originally Posted by Seeker

just when you thought it couldn't get more complicated...

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/british-ta...193218678.html

... awkward

ermm simple solution, split the vaccines between EU and UK.. politicians really are fukin stupid.

[svenrico]

Originally Posted by Bibio

ermm simple solution, split the vaccines between EU and UK.. politicians really are fukin stupid.

Would that be 50/50 ?

[Bibio]

Originally Posted by svenrico

Would that be 50/50 ?

if thats what it takes then yes.


the UK fuked up by building the factory in the EU when they could have built it here in the UK employing more UK workers but ooohhh no some fukin asswipe decided that it would be a good idea to build it somewhere else. they knew it was a tinderbox idea. what pizzes me off is these people get paid HUGE amounts to come up with idiotic things like this and people moaned about Trumps stupid ideas.........

[embee]

Apologies, I said I wouldn't, but .............

Halix opened its new plant in Leiden, NL, in 2019. Halix is contracted to AZ to supply "drug substances" which are then transported to other fill sites run by other contracted companies.
It does not appear (as far as I can see) that the UK government had any say in building any factory in the Netherlands (let alone the "EU"), it appears the funding was between UK govt and AZ, who have their own arrangements with sub-contractors.

... but hey, I may be wrong.

https://www.halix.nl/2021/03/26/hali...id-19-vaccine/