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Big Bad Al · 19-01-05, 06:42 PM

in my gearbox?
Pulled up at the lights near home yesterday and tried to kick down to neutral but nothing happeend, ie the pedal moved but there was no resistance and no "clunk". I couldn't kick past into 1st, no green light nothing. I let the clutch out a bit and eventually got it. Anyway got home and checked the oil which was a midway between the lines so I topped it up. Checked the clutch adjustment under the front sprocket cover and that was all perfect.

Seemed fine going to work until just before I arrived and my last stop at a junction it did the same. Again tonight on the way home, sometimes fine, but occassionally refusing to engage. If I let the clutch out a little, it seems to do the trick. My chain is OK but in any event this is occurring when stationary. Any clues or is it a visit to the dealer?

19-01-05, 07:43 PM

Sometimes I have to let the clutch out while stationary to get a gear... but thats when I'm neutral. Is the neutral light actualy working?

19-01-05, 07:48 PM

Check the gear lever linkage arm hasn't adjusted itself.

Other than that I am clueless

Big Bad Al · 19-01-05, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

Sometimes I have to let the clutch out while stationary to get a gear... but thats when I'm neutral. Is the neutral light actualy working?

Yep - I thought it had packed up cos it was lashing down at the time and I assumed water had shorted the light. But I realised I couldn't actually get the thing in 1st.

I checked the linkage also - thanks. I have just adjusted the chain but it needed so little and I would be doubtful this would affect things whilst stationary.

Thx for the advice (both) I'll see what tommorrow brings. If it's still playing up I know of this mobile / advisory / mechanical services group that meet up in Soho each week........!

cheers

Al.

19-01-05, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Bad Al

If it's still playing up I know of this mobile / advisory / mechanical services group that meet up in Soho each week........!

cheers

Al.

Bloody good place that. And if your really desperate and in need of help, they work out of areas and at the weekends too

Big Bad Al · 20-01-05, 08:30 AM

MMmm. Didn't misbehave this morning at all (well one false neutral which is par for the course) but no "wooley" pedal. I adjusted the chain slack which was just beyond the 1.2" and now it seems fine. Still don't get how this affects stationary gear action! Must admit the bike felt better for the adjustment. Is it me or does a correctly adjusted chain almost seem too tight with just 0.8 - 1.2 ". My last bike was a Kwak 125 Eliminator (bid of a parody that name!) and had quite a bit of slack. BTW Saw two new SVers this morning, Long Lane just before Hillingdon Stn and at Perivale jnc with A40 / Argyll Rd. Anyone from here?

Still feels better now.

20-01-05, 09:58 AM

yeah this happens to me as well usually it occurs when you u brake hard to stop the gears dont seem to want to mesh, let the clutch out out a bit and it will go in. pain in the bum.

Sid Squid · 20-01-05, 11:24 AM

Make sure that your clutch is adjusted properly and it sounds very much like the gear lever pivot, (on the footrest), is seizing up, try squirting some WD or similar around it and see if the problem goes away.

The aluminium of the inside of the lever is corroding and squeezing the fibrous bearing/bush, which is in turn gripping the pivot, when this happens, the effort needed to move the lever exceeds the force the spring can provide, thus the selector mechanism won't reset.

Big Bad Al · 20-01-05, 01:38 PM

cheers forthe tip. I'll give this a go right now.

Al

Big Bad Al · 20-01-05, 01:38 PM

cheers forthe tip. I'll give this a go right now.

Al

19-01-05, 06:42 PM	#1
Big Bad Al Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: West London Posts: 188	has something broken? in my gearbox? Pulled up at the lights near home yesterday and tried to kick down to neutral but nothing happeend, ie the pedal moved but there was no resistance and no "clunk". I couldn't kick past into 1st, no green light nothing. I let the clutch out a bit and eventually got it. Anyway got home and checked the oil which was a midway between the lines so I topped it up. Checked the clutch adjustment under the front sprocket cover and that was all perfect. Seemed fine going to work until just before I arrived and my last stop at a junction it did the same. Again tonight on the way home, sometimes fine, but occassionally refusing to engage. If I let the clutch out a little, it seems to do the trick. My chain is OK but in any event this is occurring when stationary. Any clues or is it a visit to the dealer? __________________ SFV650 in black with Evotech tailtidy, R&G Aeros and Heated Grips, Puig fly screen, Pipe Werx GP style race exhaust. Whoop! Previously.... Black SVS - DHM's Heated Grips Airblade Iridium Double Bubble Screen Beowulf end can and Evotech tailtidy. 3/7/2004 - 26/6/2015.

20-01-05, 08:30 AM	#6
Big Bad Al Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: West London Posts: 188	MMmm. Didn't misbehave this morning at all (well one false neutral which is par for the course) but no "wooley" pedal. I adjusted the chain slack which was just beyond the 1.2" and now it seems fine. Still don't get how this affects stationary gear action! Must admit the bike felt better for the adjustment. Is it me or does a correctly adjusted chain almost seem too tight with just 0.8 - 1.2 ". My last bike was a Kwak 125 Eliminator (bid of a parody that name!) and had quite a bit of slack. BTW Saw two new SVers this morning, Long Lane just before Hillingdon Stn and at Perivale jnc with A40 / Argyll Rd. Anyone from here? Still feels better now. __________________ SFV650 in black with Evotech tailtidy, R&G Aeros and Heated Grips, Puig fly screen, Pipe Werx GP style race exhaust. Whoop! Previously.... Black SVS - DHM's Heated Grips Airblade Iridium Double Bubble Screen Beowulf end can and Evotech tailtidy. 3/7/2004 - 26/6/2015.

20-01-05, 09:58 AM	#7
paulsheridanz Guest Posts: n/a	is it broke yeah this happens to me as well usually it occurs when you u brake hard to stop the gears dont seem to want to mesh, let the clutch out out a bit and it will go in. pain in the bum.

20-01-05, 11:24 AM	#8
Sid Squid No, I don't lend tools. Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Skunk Works, Nth London Posts: 8,680	Make sure that your clutch is adjusted properly and it sounds very much like the gear lever pivot, (on the footrest), is seizing up, try squirting some WD or similar around it and see if the problem goes away. The aluminium of the inside of the lever is corroding and squeezing the fibrous bearing/bush, which is in turn gripping the pivot, when this happens, the effort needed to move the lever exceeds the force the spring can provide, thus the selector mechanism won't reset. __________________ If an SV650 has a flat tyre in the forest and no-one is there to blow it up, how long will it be 'til someone posts that the reg/rec is duff and the world will end unless a CBR unit is fitted? A little bit of knowledge = a dangerous thing. "a deathless anthem of nuclear-strength romantic angst"

20-01-05, 01:38 PM	#9
Big Bad Al Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: West London Posts: 188	cheers forthe tip. I'll give this a go right now. Al __________________ SFV650 in black with Evotech tailtidy, R&G Aeros and Heated Grips, Puig fly screen, Pipe Werx GP style race exhaust. Whoop! Previously.... Black SVS - DHM's Heated Grips Airblade Iridium Double Bubble Screen Beowulf end can and Evotech tailtidy. 3/7/2004 - 26/6/2015.

19-01-05, 07:43 PM	#2
Flamin_Squirrel Guest Posts: n/a	Sometimes I have to let the clutch out while stationary to get a gear... but thats when I'm neutral. Is the neutral light actualy working?

19-01-05, 07:48 PM	#3
Stig Guest Posts: n/a	Check the gear lever linkage arm hasn't adjusted itself. Other than that I am clueless

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