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garynortheast · 16-10-23, 09:02 PM

I've had the main connections apart and they all look good. I gave them a spray of contact cleaner and a few drops of ACF50 any way.

I'm going to make up a cable to take the reg/rec output straight to the battery and bypass all the wiring which takes it through the ignition switch.

admin · 16-10-23, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by garynortheast

I've had the main connections apart and they all look good. I gave them a spray of contact cleaner and a few drops of ACF50 any way.

I'm going to make up a cable to take the reg/rec output straight to the battery and bypass all the wiring which takes it through the ignition switch.

There was an unofficial mod you could buy for the VFR that did exactly that.

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garynortheast · 16-10-23, 09:38 PM

When I bought an new reg/rec from Electrex World for my little 400 gixer, they sent me one of them for nothing. It get's rid of of potential poor connections on a whole length of, by now, old wires.

Seeker · 17-10-23, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by garynortheast

I'm going to make up a cable to take the reg/rec output straight to the battery and bypass all the wiring which takes it through the ignition switch.

Don't forget to add a fuse if you're doing that.

garynortheast · 17-10-23, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Seeker

Don't forget to add a fuse if you're doing that.

Thanks for the reminder Seeker, I'd forgotten about that.

Sir Trev · 17-10-23, 08:37 PM

(Un)happy memories of my 82 GSX250EZ when it got to about 10 years old, when the electrics started doing exactly this sort of thing. Good luck finding and fixing the issue Gary.

garynortheast · 17-10-23, 09:53 PM

It's definitely the reg/rec. Everything else tests ok. Took it off the bike this afternoon and the resin back is showing signs of heat, it's all cracked.

I think I'm going to grit my teeth and stump up for a new mosfet reg/rec from Electrex World. I'm going to ask them if they still do the little direct to battery harness as well. I really can't be arsed with crimping/soldering at the moment, I'd rather just get the stuff and plug it in. It might be different when I have my workshop built and somewhere inside with a workbench to work at, but I'm not interested in juggling wires and connecters outside in the cold.

admin · 18-10-23, 07:50 AM

Sounds like you found the culprit. I bought my reg/rec from wemoto. They had a few to choose from but I went with the most expensive as it had built in overheat protection. It would just shut itself off if it couldn't dump the output to a full battery.

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garynortheast · 19-10-23, 07:17 PM

New reg/rec arrived today from Electrex World. They even sent me the spades and shroud to make up a direct-to-battery loom. Everything is back together, all I need to do is connect the battery end of the loom extension to the battery.
I need to put a fuse in the fuseholder but not sure what rating to use. Anyone have any idea - 15a/20a/30a?

admin · 19-10-23, 07:29 PM

Most bikes have a 30a, certainly the case on my last two bikes.

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16-10-23, 09:02 PM	#21
garynortheast Member Mega Poster Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Mid Wales Posts: 2,488	Re: Broken down with a dead battery I've had the main connections apart and they all look good. I gave them a spray of contact cleaner and a few drops of ACF50 any way. I'm going to make up a cable to take the reg/rec output straight to the battery and bypass all the wiring which takes it through the ignition switch. __________________ http://www.teulu-cymru.org/cartref.html https://teulu.bandcamp.com/releases

16-10-23, 09:38 PM	#23
garynortheast Member Mega Poster Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Mid Wales Posts: 2,488	Re: Broken down with a dead battery When I bought an new reg/rec from Electrex World for my little 400 gixer, they sent me one of them for nothing. It get's rid of of potential poor connections on a whole length of, by now, old wires. __________________ http://www.teulu-cymru.org/cartref.html https://teulu.bandcamp.com/releases

17-10-23, 08:37 PM	#26
Sir Trev Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: High Wycombe, where the chair factories used to be Posts: 1,440	Re: Broken down with a dead battery (Un)happy memories of my 82 GSX250EZ when it got to about 10 years old, when the electrics started doing exactly this sort of thing. Good luck finding and fixing the issue Gary. __________________ We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town, BEEP BEEP!

17-10-23, 09:53 PM	#27
garynortheast Member Mega Poster Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Mid Wales Posts: 2,488	Re: Broken down with a dead battery It's definitely the reg/rec. Everything else tests ok. Took it off the bike this afternoon and the resin back is showing signs of heat, it's all cracked. I think I'm going to grit my teeth and stump up for a new mosfet reg/rec from Electrex World. I'm going to ask them if they still do the little direct to battery harness as well. I really can't be arsed with crimping/soldering at the moment, I'd rather just get the stuff and plug it in. It might be different when I have my workshop built and somewhere inside with a workbench to work at, but I'm not interested in juggling wires and connecters outside in the cold. __________________ http://www.teulu-cymru.org/cartref.html https://teulu.bandcamp.com/releases Last edited by garynortheast; 18-10-23 at 06:45 AM.

18-10-23, 07:50 AM	#28
admin John T Mega Poster Join Date: May 2003 Location: Shrewsbury, Shrops, UK Posts: 2,455	Re: Broken down with a dead battery Sounds like you found the culprit. I bought my reg/rec from wemoto. They had a few to choose from but I went with the most expensive as it had built in overheat protection. It would just shut itself off if it couldn't dump the output to a full battery. Sent from my moto g(50) using Tapatalk __________________ Admin for this forum and the main site. John@sv650.org

19-10-23, 07:17 PM	#29
garynortheast Member Mega Poster Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Mid Wales Posts: 2,488	Re: Broken down with a dead battery New reg/rec arrived today from Electrex World. They even sent me the spades and shroud to make up a direct-to-battery loom. Everything is back together, all I need to do is connect the battery end of the loom extension to the battery. I need to put a fuse in the fuseholder but not sure what rating to use. Anyone have any idea - 15a/20a/30a? __________________ http://www.teulu-cymru.org/cartref.html https://teulu.bandcamp.com/releases

19-10-23, 07:29 PM	#30
admin John T Mega Poster Join Date: May 2003 Location: Shrewsbury, Shrops, UK Posts: 2,455	Re: Broken down with a dead battery Most bikes have a 30a, certainly the case on my last two bikes. Sent from my SM-T510 using Tapatalk __________________ Admin for this forum and the main site. John@sv650.org

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