Quote of the day (sorry, Brexit related)

[zsv650s]

Originally Posted by Bibio

just think of the cost that a border patrol and fence etc.etc is going to cost the British tax payer... even more public spending like the NHS will have to be cut to fund the border... lovely. ooohhh wait i forgot the UK will have all this new found wealth.

EU wants the border they can pay for it

[Talking Heads]

Originally Posted by chris8886

why should we need a hard border, when Switzerland doesn't have one?

Switzerland has negotiated a "deal" or rather a series of ten of them.
Treeza's infamous "red lines" mean the UK can't have have the same relationship with the EU which Switzerland enjoys.

And in any case, it could be argued that Switzerland does in fact have a hard border.

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top...hane-1-5503444

As an example...

Shoppers queue to get into Germany from Switzerland at Kreuzlingen

[Red ones]

Originally Posted by zsv650s

EU wants the border they can pay for it

The EU didn't ask us to leave, as far as I remember it was the other way round.


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[Talking Heads]

Originally Posted by zsv650s

EU wants the border they can pay for it

My guess would be the EU27 would prefer the current arrangements to continue.

England and Wales have voted to leave the EU, so if Brexit goes ahead its only right England and Wales should be made to pay.

[zsv650s]

Originally Posted by Talking Heads

My guess would be the EU27 would prefer the current arrangements to continue.

England and Wales have voted to leave the EU, so if Brexit goes ahead its only right England and Wales should be made to pay.

not really why should we do anything just leave it completely unnecessary having a hard border.(edited to hard border didn't mean no border)

[Talking Heads]

Originally Posted by zsv650s

completely unnecessary having a border.

I guess if you believed the bull**** on the bus you'll probably believe anything.

[Biker Biggles]

How do we "take back control" of our borders if we dont have a border?

[keith_d]

Originally Posted by Talking Heads

I guess if you believed the bull**** on the bus you'll probably believe anything.

Can't beat a well reasoned argument.

The need for a border comes from the difference in tax and regulation regimes between the two countries.

Within the EU the regulations have been (mostly) harmonized and the members have agreed to free movement of goods between countries. So at the moment a truck can drive from London to Berlin without stopping for customs. There is also free movement of EU nationals and the right to work in other countries and be treated the same as the locals.

When we leave the EU that all changes. Both sides are entitled to levy duty on goods passing over the border and confirm that goods meet their regulations. They can also deny entry to people. In theory that means re-instating border posts and passport checks across Ireland, and at the Channel ports & Eurotunnel.

[Chris_SVS]

Originally Posted by keith_d

In theory that means re-instating border posts and passport checks across Ireland, and at the Channel ports & Eurotunnel.

It'll be lovely, the "New IRA" which is not to be confused with the provisional, actual, real, continuity and I can'y believe it's not the IRA. Have already claimed responsibility for a car bomb or two.

[zsv650s]

Originally Posted by Talking Heads

I guess if you believed the bull**** on the bus you'll probably believe anything.

Where did I say I believed that don't be a Muppet.