Pants! Sump plug... - SV650.org

19-01-06, 09:26 AM

Going to change oil and oil filter, only to round the sump plug. I did use a socket set as well, not sure how hard these ruislip lads have thighten the bolt.

Is there any good trick to get the bolt off without having to take it up to the shop?

Kindest regards,
127.0.0.1

Scoobs · 19-01-06, 09:29 AM

It shouldn't be tightened to much as it threads into aluminium. You "were" turning it the right way weren't you?

19-01-06, 09:39 AM

ooops!.

Id take it somewhere that knows what they are doing now before you make any more mess. Seriously, you dont want to have to start drilling it out or risk cracking the sump!. I have seen that happen and his home service cost him £700 odd quid!.

Are your tools upto the job?. If your socket is slightly rounded inside then it wont grip the plug tightly and cause it to round off.

I am always doing that..hence why i ride the bike and steve works on it!!!

19-01-06, 09:46 AM

Oh well, i wanted to avoid having to drag it all the way up to ruislip, but then i suppose i don't have much of a choise.

I was indeed turning it the right way.

No i shan't be doing any drilling in there, since i don't have a drill, nor the knowledge.

Well, to the suzuki shop it is then.

19-01-06, 09:52 AM

Are you sure it was righty-tighty/lefty-loosey?

Several peeps have stripped the sump plug bolt because they've turned it the wrong way. Just a thought, hope you get it sorted (cheaply).

.

19-01-06, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonboy

Are you sure it was righty-tighty/lefty-loosey?

Several peeps have stripped the sump plug bolt because they've turned it the wrong way. Just a thought, hope you get it sorted (cheaply).

.

My sump thread was stripped the first time i did an oil change. It appears the previous owner was a thicko and had glued in the the plug after stripping it himself.

northwind · 19-01-06, 01:26 PM

It's really easy to do it the wrong way when working upside down too... I always use a ratchet and set it before I go near the bike

Not saying that you did this, just as a wee note for anyone else reading.

19-01-06, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by northwind

It's really easy to do it the wrong way when working upside down too... I always use a ratchet and set it before I go near the bike

Not saying that you did this, just as a wee note for anyone else reading.

Agreed.

Whenever working on something "upside down", I like to get underneath it if at all possible, so I won't fall foul to this. For this reason, I lie on my back when removing/fitting a sump plug.

Fortunately, I learnt "the hard way" to do this at GCSE Design Technology as opposed to when working on a bike.

19-01-06, 04:57 PM

I`m an engineer and still have been known to get this wrong ( usually when you have an audience who are only too keen to point out your mistake ).

The socket you were using does it drive on the flats of the plug or the corners ( always best using the former on slightly worn nuts ).

19-01-06, 05:49 PM

Believe it or not, very tight drain plugs can, in my experience be freed by a firm "tap" with a well-aimed hammer

before using a ratchet set to drive anti-clockwise when viewed from the back (direction lever) side.

Some of these hooligans think the plugs need to be "murdered"

. Remember folks it only needs to stop the oil running out - not hold the engine into the frame or similar. Just like a filter, hand tight and then an eighth of a turn is more than adequate.

Good Luck,

Garry

19-01-06, 09:26 AM	#1
localhost Guest Posts: n/a	Pants! Sump plug... Going to change oil and oil filter, only to round the sump plug. I did use a socket set as well, not sure how hard these ruislip lads have thighten the bolt. Is there any good trick to get the bolt off without having to take it up to the shop? Kindest regards, 127.0.0.1

19-01-06, 09:29 AM	#2
Scoobs Vipers Pillion Bitch Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Waterlooville Posts: 3,933	It shouldn't be tightened to much as it threads into aluminium. You "were" turning it the right way weren't you? __________________ I look good, I mean really good! Hey everyone come and see how good I look!

19-01-06, 01:26 PM	#7
northwind Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the garage where I belong Posts: 17,082	It's really easy to do it the wrong way when working upside down too... I always use a ratchet and set it before I go near the bike Not saying that you did this, just as a wee note for anyone else reading. __________________ "We are the angry mob, we read the papers every day We like what we like, we hate what we hate But we're oh so easily swayed"

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19-01-06, 09:39 AM	#3
SV650Racer Guest Posts: n/a	ooops!. Id take it somewhere that knows what they are doing now before you make any more mess. Seriously, you dont want to have to start drilling it out or risk cracking the sump!. I have seen that happen and his home service cost him £700 odd quid!. Are your tools upto the job?. If your socket is slightly rounded inside then it wont grip the plug tightly and cause it to round off. I am always doing that..hence why i ride the bike and steve works on it!!!

19-01-06, 09:46 AM	#4
localhost Guest Posts: n/a	Oh well, i wanted to avoid having to drag it all the way up to ruislip, but then i suppose i don't have much of a choise. I was indeed turning it the right way. No i shan't be doing any drilling in there, since i don't have a drill, nor the knowledge. Well, to the suzuki shop it is then.

19-01-06, 09:52 AM	#5
jonboy Guest Posts: n/a	Are you sure it was righty-tighty/lefty-loosey? Several peeps have stripped the sump plug bolt because they've turned it the wrong way. Just a thought, hope you get it sorted (cheaply). .

19-01-06, 04:57 PM	#9
mac Guest Posts: n/a	I`m an engineer and still have been known to get this wrong ( usually when you have an audience who are only too keen to point out your mistake ). The socket you were using does it drive on the flats of the plug or the corners ( always best using the former on slightly worn nuts ).

19-01-06, 05:49 PM	#10
independentphoto Guest Posts: n/a	Believe it or not, very tight drain plugs can, in my experience be freed by a firm "tap" with a well-aimed hammer before using a ratchet set to drive anti-clockwise when viewed from the back (direction lever) side. Some of these hooligans think the plugs need to be "murdered" . Remember folks it only needs to stop the oil running out - not hold the engine into the frame or similar. Just like a filter, hand tight and then an eighth of a turn is more than adequate. Good Luck, Garry