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Old 02-04-18, 09:21 AM   #51
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Reading this thread drift you would have to be pretty dim not to detect a dislike from some individuals towards drivers of certain brands of cars, such a dislike that they are proposing (even in jest) that action be taken against them as a whole.

Now imagine you are the mayor of London and all you are told and see in the press is that motorcyclists are this lawless brigade intent on wreaking havoc across your city....... We all know that those responsible for this image make up a very small proportion of riders, but just like the BMW drivers we have to suffer the consequences.

I didn't learn much in my working life, but one thing I did manage to pick up on, especially in the circles I moved in towards the end of my career, was that a lot of decisions get made in unbelievable ignorance, or indifference, to the consequences of them.
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Old 02-04-18, 10:39 AM   #52
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So I was right when I said it didn't make you a lazy sexist pig then wasn't I? It also shows how dodgy it is to form an opinion about someone based on a single event. I rest my case Sir. Tolerant, that's what I am......

You made a sweeping decision based on one episode, I have had a lifetime of driving and riding watching German car drivers do stupid, arrogant and dangerous things (in many countries as well). There is a point when so called tolerance and virtue signalling becomes stupidity.

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Now imagine you are the mayor of London and all you are told and see in the press is that motorcyclists are this lawless brigade intent on wreaking havoc across your city........
Old Sadiq has more than motorbikes to worry about, under his watch(and that ineffective woman commissioner of the Met) London has just become the murder capital of the world.
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Old 02-04-18, 12:13 PM   #53
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I didn't learn much in my working life, but one thing I did manage to pick up on, especially in the circles I moved in towards the end of my career, was that a lot of decisions get made in unbelievable ignorance, or indifference, to the consequences of them.
True...most decisions/laws are brought in to curb the minorities but affect the majority.
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Old 02-04-18, 12:15 PM   #54
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You made a sweeping decision based on one episode, I have had a lifetime of driving and riding watching German car drivers do stupid, arrogant and dangerous things (in many countries as well). There is a point when so called tolerance and virtue signalling becomes stupidity.
I'm not sure if you're deliberately mis-reading and mis-quoting what I wrote or you just don't understand it. Either way it makes any kind of rational debate on the subject pretty difficult. I think you appear to have a rather prejudiced and narrow view point but that is only my opinion, and I didn't come to that conclusion from just the one post...... I love a good discussion, especially with people who can offer an alternative view to mine, but there really does have to be some substance to their contribution.
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Now imagine you are the mayor of London and all you are told and see in the press is that motorcyclists are this lawless brigade intent on wreaking havoc across your city....... We all know that those responsible for this image make up a very small proportion of riders, but just like the BMW drivers we have to suffer the consequences.
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I think he's got some issues with knives.
Although maybe"it's just part of living in a big city.."
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Old 03-04-18, 03:16 PM   #56
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There's money in charging bikes the same as cars.
There's no money in not charging bikes the same as cars.
Simples innit.
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