Quote of the day (sorry, Brexit related)

[Talking Heads]

Here's the list of trade deals in place (and pending) that Brexit will remove us from.
There's a lot of them...


http://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/cou...nd-agreements/


A very neat solution to the whole Brexit cluster**** appeared on Wings Over Scotland today.
Basically England & Wales declare independence from the UK and immediately get kicked straight out the EU.



https://wingsoverscotland.com/independence-for-england/


A flaw I see with that s the UK debt, far better for Scotland to get our independence and leave you little englanders holding that particular baby as you try to make your way, alone and unloved, in the world.

[Seeker]

Originally Posted by embee

Do you want the negotiated-exit-deal or no-deal?

If you're asking me; I've reached the "no deal" position. The PM's deal relies on trust that the EU (all 27 countries) will negotiate a trade deal, too bad if we don't like it because the backstop kicks in to protect the Irish soft border for an indeterminate time and binds us. I no longer trust the EU to deal with us fairly.

The countries that fish in our waters have already said they want to ensure they still get free access and will make make sure we don't get a deal without it. So conditions set already and we haven't started talking about trade yet.

[Seeker]

Originally Posted by Talking Heads

Basically England & Wales declare independence from the UK and immediately get kicked straight out the EU

but then you would have a border between Scotland and England which would mean (by EU rules) that it would have to be a hard border; customs checks and vehicle inspections. Since most of Scotland's trade is with England (£45 billion versus £13 billion to EU) it doesn't sound like a valid proposal.

At least Scotland would be able to get rid of the Trident base which the SNP would like.

If Scotland wants independence keep having referendums until you get the answer you want. Rejoin the EU, adopt the Euro (no choice) and have fun. We'll miss you but you grumble as much about England as England does about the EU. Maybe you want to take back control?

[littleoldman2]

Quote:
Originally Posted by littleoldman2 View Post
Source?

UK Treasury



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25712350

Hey remember this, by your reckoning the remaining UK i.e. Scotland and NI would have the dept. Cannot have it both ways

[Talking Heads]

Originally Posted by Seeker

but then you would have a border between Scotland and England which would mean (by EU rules) that it would have to be a hard border; customs checks and vehicle inspections. Since most of Scotland's trade is with England (£45 billion versus £13 billion to EU) it doesn't sound like a valid proposal.

At least Scotland would be able to get rid of the Trident base which the SNP would like.

If Scotland wants independence keep having referendums until you get the answer you want. Rejoin the EU, adopt the Euro (no choice) and have fun. We'll miss you but you grumble as much about England as England does about the EU. Maybe you want to take back control?

Hahaha the old Scotland trade with England vs EU ********.
There simply aren't accurate figures for what goes where leaving Scotland.
Not that it matters, unlike the rest of the UK we export more than we import.
Hard border with England will be fine, keep you ****s out.

Likely we won't get rid of the trident base, we'll just invoice you billions to lease it.
(base can't be moved because much of it is buried under a mountain)
And yes, absolutely we do want to take back control.
The big difference is that the EU do not have anything like the same level of control over England that England does over Scotland.
And its high time it ended.
Brexit is serving to educate even the staunchest unionists that westminster simply doesn't give a flying **** about the interests of the people of Scotland.
Indyref2 isn'y a given, there are other legitimate options which could be used.

[Talking Heads]

Originally Posted by littleoldman2

Quote:
Originally Posted by littleoldman2 View Post
Source?

UK Treasury



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25712350

Hey remember this, by your reckoning the remaining UK i.e. Scotland and NI would have the dept. Cannot have it both ways

Yep that's one very obvious flaw in the idea set out in the WoS article.
I'll be happy for Scotland to leave the UK, can't come soon enough.


Difference between Scot Indy and Brexit, desire for ScotIndy based on reality, desire for Brexit based on lies and racism.

[littleoldman2]

There's another little problem of time.

[Seeker]

Originally Posted by Talking Heads

I'll be happy for Scotland to leave the UK, can't come soon enough.

Difference between Scot Indy and Brexit, desire for ScotIndy based on reality, desire for Brexit based on lies and racism.

Well, I'm glad to see you're not bitter about it I hope you get what you want and be content.

You will need to curb your spending a bit though, you're running almost 8% deficit of GDP. I think the EU only allows 3%

https://www.theguardian.com/business...pending-the-uk

[Talking Heads]

Oh god no, not the gers figures, you do know what those are and how they came into being?


You don't?


OK, here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C8trs8mGhk
https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/...led-crap-data/

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...ical-exercise/

[Talking Heads]

Originally Posted by littleoldman2

There's another little problem of time.

Sorted. https://www.instituteforgovernment.o...ing-article-50