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Old 09-09-18, 01:57 PM   #21
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<snip> talking about the USA can you explain why it has one of the highest incarceration rates in the world? <snip>

Because the "justice system" in the USA is run as a private industry.
People are incarcerated in order to provide slave labour for big business.

95% of prison inmates in the USA have never been to trial.
Only the rich elite has access to justice, because only they can afford it.

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Old 09-09-18, 02:03 PM   #22
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95% of prison inmates in the USA have never been to trial.
That seems unbelievable
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Old 09-09-18, 02:18 PM   #23
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Most higher tech white collar crime (fraud etc) carried out by whites, most drug and street crime probably by blacks. You don't normally get shot by police for white collar crime.....

Simples........
i can see the logic in this but i would say it depends on the state or region. there will be more crime by black people in an area with high concentration of black people.. its simple maths.

its when it comes to equal mixed areas the likelihood of an UNEMPLOYED person will commit a crime be they black or white.

you also have to remember the 3 times rule, if you commit a crime no matter how trivial and it is more than three times its an automatic jail sentence in America unless your lawyer is very very good.

My pet hates are the words racist and terrorist. notice how they both have "ist" at the end. if you think about it long and hard you might just realise who uses the words most.

in the UK we never used the word racist until coloured people stared living here. before that we were racist to each other but there was no name for it. so a name was made up to distinguish the difference. why should someone get upset about someone else reminding them of the colour of their skin. i'm white, Scottish and proud of it so why should a coloured person not feel the same.

i'll not even go there with "terrorist".

i cant be feked listening to a black person moan on and on about how their ancestors were slaves... fekin get over it, your not one now and your not the only ones that were slaves..
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Old 09-09-18, 03:59 PM   #24
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The International Centre for Prison Studies believe it to be around 20%

If you claim something at least back it up.

A fair proportion of that figure are those who can't meet bail
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Old 09-09-18, 05:27 PM   #25
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That seems unbelievable

The stat I referred to was for inmates serving sentences.



https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/f...16/FigureC.pdf


source: https://www.ussc.gov/research/sourcebook-2016


https://www.fairtrials.org/wp-conten...ring-Trial.pdf



source: https://www.fairtrials.org/campaign/disappearing-trial


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If you claim something at least back it up.

So where's your links then...?
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Old 09-09-18, 05:29 PM   #26
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The scale of the USA justice system problem is something I became aware of by watching the documentary 13th on Netflix.


I've mentioned this film on here a few times, I can't recommend this film highly enough, it is essential viewing.
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So they had a trial but plead guilty so went straight to sentencing ?.
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there is a large population of inmates in the UK who have never been to trial. they went up in front of the judge who sent them down.

you would have to ask BanannaMan about this but i'm sure that if your caught a third time there is no trial as the judge either finds you guilty or not.

there are two different levels of prosecution. a trial by jury and a bench trial. every single person has a bench trial but not everyone has a trial by jury.
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According to US Dept of Justice figures released in 2015

52% of violent crime committed by the 13% of population that are of black African origin.

In crime involving black and white blacks were aggressors 85% of the time.

In crime involving black and hispanic blacks were aggressors 82% of the time.

Black African Americans are massively disproportionately appearing in violent crime stats, but in these enlightened times there is more and more pressure from swivel eyed dogmatic lefties and liberals to stop criminals being identified by ethnicity so in future crime stats will be politically correct and meaningless.
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So they had a trial but plead guilty so went straight to sentencing ?.

There is only a trial if a not guilty plea is entered.
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