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20-10-06, 07:56 PM

...Child Abuse and Pornography sites....

Sorry if this is a sad subject and this may get deleted but I'd just like to get as many people as possible to light a candle to support Victims of Child Abuse.

There is NO money needed just your support.

What good it will do I don't know but hey, lets try eh?

http://www.lightamillioncandles.com

Thanks

tinpants · 20-10-06, 08:02 PM

Anything to help. This is a worthy cause. My candle is now lit.

20-10-06, 08:10 PM

So is mine

20-10-06, 08:12 PM

Candle lit.

20-10-06, 09:02 PM

Im lit

20-10-06, 09:20 PM

i was number 700.691 hope this helps.

20-10-06, 09:30 PM

700,701.

No one will ever convince me that the stealing of the innocence of childhood by physical, mental or sexual abuse is right and I will not accept these actions being excused away by some "condition" or result of the perpetrators own childhood.

Richie · 20-10-06, 09:34 PM

700,709... now lit

20-10-06, 09:38 PM

700,711.

20-10-06, 11:03 PM

Based on my experience in this field, as much as I would like to think this will help I dont see how it can. Sorry if this upsets or annoys but I would like to highlight some of the issues.

Most lolita parts of pornography sites which I suspect is part of the 100,000 figure are actually legal. They use barely legal teens who appear younger and are promoted as such but being 16 does not make the image an illegal one and means there is nothing law enforcement can do.

The issues involved are complex and global. A lot are based on culture where life is hard and cheap and interwoven with extreme poverty and corruption of law enforcement meaning sex tourism can flourish. Also the spread of material is global requiring co-operation of law enforcement and establishing jurisdiction and extraditions which can be a legal minefield.

Also, you will never stop people being born whose brains are not wired right and think child abuse is not abuse. Nor will you catch all the abused who dont seek help and repeat the cycle and become abusers. Nor will you be able to stop the Maxine Carrs of this world helping them. In my time in the NHTCU I was flabberghasted by the women who knowing what their husband was arrested for took them back with a small child in the house and putting that child at risk.

Sadly I have to disagree with their advert in part - that abuse is getting worse and children younger. The material I was evidencing five years ago involved a six month old toddler and it really doesnt get much worse than that. The abuse is as bad as it gets and has been for some considerable time - its just that the public does not get to see that.

All I can say is this - if you have kids, educate them to the risks. People in chatrooms are not necessarily who they say they are. If theyre trying to arrange a meet, at least give them a lift and verify they are meeting who they think they are. And have the PC in the lounge or somewhere you can keep an eye on what your kids are doing. I cant tell you how many images of young teenage girls stripping off on webcams to paedophiles pretending to be similar aged boys I came across but it was scarily very high.

I really hope this actually achieves something. But ime the only thing that does is actually catch the guys that distribute it or who create it or who engage in sex tourism. Given the internet has taken their sense of isolation away and they can now reinforce with each other what they see as validity of their views I think this problem is going to get very, very much worse even with the resources put into trying to catch them.

20-10-06, 07:56 PM	#1
BabyJ Guest Posts: n/a	STOP... ...Child Abuse and Pornography sites.... Sorry if this is a sad subject and this may get deleted but I'd just like to get as many people as possible to light a candle to support Victims of Child Abuse. There is NO money needed just your support. What good it will do I don't know but hey, lets try eh? http://www.lightamillioncandles.com Thanks

20-10-06, 08:02 PM	#2
tinpants Ubique Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire Posts: 643	Anything to help. This is a worthy cause. My candle is now lit. __________________ Jesus loves you. Everyone else thinks you're a pillock

20-10-06, 09:34 PM	#8
Richie fantabulas Mega Poster Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Nr Durham Posts: 4,940	700,709... now lit __________________ My Flickr photos

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kwak zzr Guest Posts: n/a	i was number 700.691 hope this helps.

20-10-06, 09:30 PM	#7
Peter Henry Guest Posts: n/a	700,701. No one will ever convince me that the stealing of the innocence of childhood by physical, mental or sexual abuse is right and I will not accept these actions being excused away by some "condition" or result of the perpetrators own childhood.

20-10-06, 11:03 PM	#10
lynw Guest Posts: n/a	Based on my experience in this field, as much as I would like to think this will help I dont see how it can. Sorry if this upsets or annoys but I would like to highlight some of the issues. Most lolita parts of pornography sites which I suspect is part of the 100,000 figure are actually legal. They use barely legal teens who appear younger and are promoted as such but being 16 does not make the image an illegal one and means there is nothing law enforcement can do. The issues involved are complex and global. A lot are based on culture where life is hard and cheap and interwoven with extreme poverty and corruption of law enforcement meaning sex tourism can flourish. Also the spread of material is global requiring co-operation of law enforcement and establishing jurisdiction and extraditions which can be a legal minefield. Also, you will never stop people being born whose brains are not wired right and think child abuse is not abuse. Nor will you catch all the abused who dont seek help and repeat the cycle and become abusers. Nor will you be able to stop the Maxine Carrs of this world helping them. In my time in the NHTCU I was flabberghasted by the women who knowing what their husband was arrested for took them back with a small child in the house and putting that child at risk. Sadly I have to disagree with their advert in part - that abuse is getting worse and children younger. The material I was evidencing five years ago involved a six month old toddler and it really doesnt get much worse than that. The abuse is as bad as it gets and has been for some considerable time - its just that the public does not get to see that. All I can say is this - if you have kids, educate them to the risks. People in chatrooms are not necessarily who they say they are. If theyre trying to arrange a meet, at least give them a lift and verify they are meeting who they think they are. And have the PC in the lounge or somewhere you can keep an eye on what your kids are doing. I cant tell you how many images of young teenage girls stripping off on webcams to paedophiles pretending to be similar aged boys I came across but it was scarily very high. I really hope this actually achieves something. But ime the only thing that does is actually catch the guys that distribute it or who create it or who engage in sex tourism. Given the internet has taken their sense of isolation away and they can now reinforce with each other what they see as validity of their views I think this problem is going to get very, very much worse even with the resources put into trying to catch them.