The Covid19 thread

[svenrico]

Originally Posted by Kenzie

Yep. And we should have shut the borders long ago.

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Hear, hear.

[DJ123]

Originally Posted by Kenzie

Yep. And we should have shut the borders long ago.

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about 16 months ago . . . .

But unfortunately the Clowns in charge don't think this is appropriate. The same as addressing the HoP before Publicly announcing something, or consulting the House before Announcing something . . . . . you know, things they agreed to do months ago before implementing any changes.

[embee]

They gave themselves emergency powers. Just keep an eye on how reluctant they are to give them up when the real emergency is over, and whether they start "mission creep", using the powers to do stuff it was never intended to cover. Having got used to the unchallenged ability to just do stuff they'll say they see no reason to revert to the democratic ways, just so much quicker and easier to do what they want. It's the thin end of the authoritarian or even totalitarian wedge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism

Don't trust them an inch.

[dizzyblonde]

I could see it two months ago, that the future of June would be far from 'freedom'.
When the government gave dates for both
May and June as 'subject to review' was the great big obvious clue.

[Seeker]

clear, concise description of the arrival of the "delta" variant by Ros Atkins (BBC):
https://twitter.com/i/status/1405615466844983298

[Bibio]

so restrictions to be lifted on the 19th of this month. what the gov are really saying is that there is nothing more we can do and we are turning to herd immunity to cure the problem.

[DJ123]

essentially, yes. A large proportion has now been vaccinated, and it's a Virus that will have to be lived with. The only way to do that is to see how society performs and how things go.

[SV650rules]

Originally Posted by DJ123

essentially, yes. A large proportion has now been vaccinated, and it's a Virus that will have to be lived with. The only way to do that is to see how society performs and how things go.

As Sajid Javid said ' we are going to have to learn to live with this virus'..


It will be treated like annual influenza where we will be offered a 'guess the variant' vaccine cocktail of 3 of 4 variants starting in Autumn, none of which are the right ones... In an average year 20 to 25,000 succumb to influenza despite the vaccinations, and as with covid they are the people who already have many underlying chronic health issues and those with dysfunctional immune systems. Maybe influenza deaths in next few years will be very low because covid has taken its place for last 18 months and reduced the pool of vulnerable people. Many vulnerable people also been saved in previous years by influenza vaccines, but they were helpless in the face of the new covid virus and succumbed quickly. We have to face the fact that some people are already in chronic ill health, kept alive by constant ministrations of NHS, but in the face of a virulent new virus could not really be protected fully.


Alternative is to cower in the cellar for years to come....

[Biker Biggles]

There is a pressure group known as "lockdown sceptics" who have been opposed to all restictions,mask wearing,school closures,social distancing and travel bans since it all began and they have been quite good at producing data to support their case. They have IMO also been wrong most of that time but,just like King Canute, their tide will eventually come in and they will be able to say,"Look we dont need any of this", and pretend they were right all along. My hope is that the vaccination program will be the factor that changes everything and that it will continue to work well including against current and future new variants. Given how well they are doing now,Im quite optimistic for the future.

[Seeker]

Another 8 mins of Ros Atkins, this time about the issues with a July 19 covid rules relaxation:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1413219167130509314