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PyroUK · 21-07-14, 05:08 PM

HELP! I'm applying for a new job and it asks if I have any unspent convictions under the terms of the rehabilitation of offenders act 1974.

Do points for speeding count? In confused as I don't have to declare these to my current employer and they don't care. Don't want to F it up!

Ta

21-07-14, 05:10 PM

nope, speeding offenses aren't covered.

Red Herring · 21-07-14, 05:32 PM

Depends on their point of view. My understanding is they still count if they are on your licence, so five years for most things, ten years for drink/dangerous driving and similar really bad stuff.

PyroUK · 21-07-14, 05:37 PM

Hmmm will leave it blank and ask them at interview then! Cheers fellas

embee · 21-07-14, 05:41 PM

It was something I knew nothing whatsoever about, so did a quick google out of interest.
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...nders-act-1974

click on the pdf link for details, and it spells out the motoring offences stuff. I guess it depends how the prospective employer wants to treat stuff, but if they ask for the info they could be stroppy if you don't include it.

maviczap · 21-07-14, 05:48 PM

Might be better to declare it on the application.

Can't think a speeding fine & points is going to affect a job application unless it was a driving job

PyroUK · 21-07-14, 06:15 PM

Cheers embee, did have a look at that but wasn't sure as the example given included additional stuff on top of the points.

Cheers

Bibio · 21-07-14, 06:16 PM

speeding fines and point are not a conviction unless you have been to court and been banned.

since it mentions rehabilitation of offenders i would presume that what they mean is have you a spent time in prison for murder etc.etc.

21-07-14, 07:01 PM

conviction
kənˈvɪkʃ(ə)n/Submit
noun
1.
a formal declaration by the verdict of a jury or the decision of a judge in a court of law that someone is guilty of a criminal offence.

I believe its a driving endorsement unless you go to court.

21-07-14, 07:49 PM

Penalty points and licence endorsed can count as convictions. Key here is they ask if they are "unspent". Under English and Welsh rehab of offenders penalty points become spent after 3 years and licence endorsed after 5 years. So if it was over 5 years ago then it's spent and you wont need to declare it.

Also as mentioned this would only cover actual convictions, not fixed penalties etc.

21-07-14, 05:08 PM	#1
PyroUK Member Mega Poster Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Poole Posts: 1,083	Points and job applications HELP! I'm applying for a new job and it asks if I have any unspent convictions under the terms of the rehabilitation of offenders act 1974. Do points for speeding count? In confused as I don't have to declare these to my current employer and they don't care. Don't want to F it up! Ta __________________ 2011 Triumph Daytona 675, Arrow exhaust and QS!

21-07-14, 05:10 PM	#2
Spank86 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Points and job applications nope, speeding offenses aren't covered.

21-07-14, 05:32 PM	#3
Red Herring Member Mega Poster Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,708	Re: Points and job applications Depends on their point of view. My understanding is they still count if they are on your licence, so five years for most things, ten years for drink/dangerous driving and similar really bad stuff.

21-07-14, 05:37 PM	#4
PyroUK Member Mega Poster Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Poole Posts: 1,083	Points and job applications Hmmm will leave it blank and ask them at interview then! Cheers fellas __________________ 2011 Triumph Daytona 675, Arrow exhaust and QS!

21-07-14, 05:41 PM	#5
embee Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 2,801	Re: Points and job applications It was something I knew nothing whatsoever about, so did a quick google out of interest. https://www.gov.uk/government/public...nders-act-1974 click on the pdf link for details, and it spells out the motoring offences stuff. I guess it depends how the prospective employer wants to treat stuff, but if they ask for the info they could be stroppy if you don't include it. __________________ "Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity"

21-07-14, 05:48 PM	#6
maviczap Member Mega Poster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,096	Re: Points and job applications Might be better to declare it on the application. Can't think a speeding fine & points is going to affect a job application unless it was a driving job __________________ We're riding out tonight to case the promised land Make everyday count RIP Reeder - Jolly Green Giant and comedy genius

21-07-14, 06:15 PM	#7
PyroUK Member Mega Poster Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Poole Posts: 1,083	Points and job applications Cheers embee, did have a look at that but wasn't sure as the example given included additional stuff on top of the points. Cheers __________________ 2011 Triumph Daytona 675, Arrow exhaust and QS!

21-07-14, 06:16 PM	#8
Bibio Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: here as devil's advocate Posts: 11,540	Re: Points and job applications speeding fines and point are not a conviction unless you have been to court and been banned. since it mentions rehabilitation of offenders i would presume that what they mean is have you a spent time in prison for murder etc.etc.

21-07-14, 07:01 PM	#9
a_monkey_hint Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Points and job applications conviction kənˈvɪkʃ(ə)n/Submit noun 1. a formal declaration by the verdict of a jury or the decision of a judge in a court of law that someone is guilty of a criminal offence. I believe its a driving endorsement unless you go to court.

21-07-14, 07:49 PM	#10
AJC Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Points and job applications Penalty points and licence endorsed can count as convictions. Key here is they ask if they are "unspent". Under English and Welsh rehab of offenders penalty points become spent after 3 years and licence endorsed after 5 years. So if it was over 5 years ago then it's spent and you wont need to declare it. Also as mentioned this would only cover actual convictions, not fixed penalties etc.

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