Pointy no spark - SV650.org

Stilo · 14-07-18, 10:15 AM

I am rebuilding an 05 pointy. It was running fine but now it wont start at all.
The battery is good and it turns over well
F1 is showing on the dash. I have done a search & found the diag link & used my home made "diag tool" it says c-00 which is normal & the TPS is set correctly, no further codes have shown up.
So back to basics, there is no spark at either plug and although I can hear the fuel pump the plugs are dry.
The side stand switch has been in and out since I changed the plugs but if that was playing up wouldn't it stop it spinning over?
Any idea what to check next?
Thanks

glang · 14-07-18, 12:09 PM

you really need to download the manual as it explains all about FI problem diagnosis. One important thing is that each time the ignition is turned off the fault code memory is wiped so you need to put it into dealer mode and then try a start.....

Bibio · 14-07-18, 12:40 PM

stop/run switchgear switch. you need to check the continuity of the switch in/out. IIR you can do it at the switchgear end instead of the connector end (which is a nightmare to get off)

Stilo · 14-07-18, 03:19 PM

So would it still turn over if the switchgear was playing up?

Stilo · 14-07-18, 03:20 PM

Yeah done that, no new, additional codes came up

Stilo · 14-07-18, 03:22 PM

Can you give me an idiots guide how to check the continuity please, Ive got a multimeter

Bibio · 14-07-18, 03:44 PM

its pretty simple. this is very very basic testing. you can do the same with a simple bulb tester rig.

stick the red DMM probe on/in the OUT wire (Orange/White) of the switch. turn your DMM to 20vdc and turn the bike on then put the stop/run switch to ON then place the black probe of the DMM to the frame or negative battery terminal if there is no voltage when the switch is ON then the switch is fubar.

to check you are getting power into the switch do the same as above but use the Orange/Black wire.

if you cant get at any terminals or solder blobs then stick probes through the insulation of the wire. once done put a blob of glue in the hole. or use a hot needle to melt/scrape a little insulation over the hole.

Bibio · 14-07-18, 03:47 PM

hhmmm come to think about it the bike wont even turn over if the switch is fubar.

have you checked the fuses?

do you have an alarm fitted?

Stilo · 14-07-18, 03:50 PM

Yep checked the fuses, no alarm fitted

Bibio · 14-07-18, 04:02 PM

check the Orange/White wire terminal on the connector loom of the stop/start switchgear.

have you had the ECU out at any point?

14-07-18, 10:15 AM	#1
Stilo Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Creaton Sunny Northamptonshire Posts: 290	Pointy no spark I am rebuilding an 05 pointy. It was running fine but now it wont start at all. The battery is good and it turns over well F1 is showing on the dash. I have done a search & found the diag link & used my home made "diag tool" it says c-00 which is normal & the TPS is set correctly, no further codes have shown up. So back to basics, there is no spark at either plug and although I can hear the fuel pump the plugs are dry. The side stand switch has been in and out since I changed the plugs but if that was playing up wouldn't it stop it spinning over? Any idea what to check next? Thanks __________________ He was a hairy handed Gent who ran amok in Kent Awhooo

14-07-18, 12:09 PM	#2
glang Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 537	Re: Pointy no spark you really need to download the manual as it explains all about FI problem diagnosis. One important thing is that each time the ignition is turned off the fault code memory is wiped so you need to put it into dealer mode and then try a start.....

14-07-18, 12:40 PM	#3
Bibio Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: here as devil's advocate Posts: 11,540	Re: Pointy no spark stop/run switchgear switch. you need to check the continuity of the switch in/out. IIR you can do it at the switchgear end instead of the connector end (which is a nightmare to get off)

14-07-18, 03:19 PM	#4
Stilo Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Creaton Sunny Northamptonshire Posts: 290	Re: Pointy no spark So would it still turn over if the switchgear was playing up? __________________ He was a hairy handed Gent who ran amok in Kent Awhooo

14-07-18, 03:20 PM	#5
Stilo Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Creaton Sunny Northamptonshire Posts: 290	Re: Pointy no spark Yeah done that, no new, additional codes came up __________________ He was a hairy handed Gent who ran amok in Kent Awhooo

14-07-18, 03:22 PM	#6
Stilo Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Creaton Sunny Northamptonshire Posts: 290	Re: Pointy no spark Can you give me an idiots guide how to check the continuity please, Ive got a multimeter __________________ He was a hairy handed Gent who ran amok in Kent Awhooo

14-07-18, 03:44 PM	#7
Bibio Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: here as devil's advocate Posts: 11,540	Re: Pointy no spark its pretty simple. this is very very basic testing. you can do the same with a simple bulb tester rig. stick the red DMM probe on/in the OUT wire (Orange/White) of the switch. turn your DMM to 20vdc and turn the bike on then put the stop/run switch to ON then place the black probe of the DMM to the frame or negative battery terminal if there is no voltage when the switch is ON then the switch is fubar. to check you are getting power into the switch do the same as above but use the Orange/Black wire. if you cant get at any terminals or solder blobs then stick probes through the insulation of the wire. once done put a blob of glue in the hole. or use a hot needle to melt/scrape a little insulation over the hole.

14-07-18, 03:47 PM	#8
Bibio Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: here as devil's advocate Posts: 11,540	Re: Pointy no spark hhmmm come to think about it the bike wont even turn over if the switch is fubar. have you checked the fuses? do you have an alarm fitted?

14-07-18, 03:50 PM	#9
Stilo Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Creaton Sunny Northamptonshire Posts: 290	Re: Pointy no spark Yep checked the fuses, no alarm fitted __________________ He was a hairy handed Gent who ran amok in Kent Awhooo

14-07-18, 04:02 PM	#10
Bibio Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: here as devil's advocate Posts: 11,540	Re: Pointy no spark check the Orange/White wire terminal on the connector loom of the stop/start switchgear. have you had the ECU out at any point?

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