Gear change problem-can't get past 2nd gear - SV650.org

muzikill · 11-09-07, 05:30 PM

On the way to work today about 5 mins away 3 loud clunks where heard at the bottom of the engine so took it easy and parked up at work was able to get the bike into neutral from top gear easily, now i find i can't get it past 2nd gear, it will select 1st neutral second like normal but won't go any further

Something tells me this is a biggy with the engine having to come out for a transmission overhaul, if that's the case the bikes of the road until next year

, will have to get the dosh together for this one!

Anyone had, this fixed this or any ideas on probable fix or cost then all advice appreciated

Sid Squid · 11-09-07, 07:13 PM

Not good, does the lever move up but not get the gear, or does the lever go solid above 2nd? I'd check the external gear selector mechanism first, (under the clutch basket), and cross my fingers.

muzikill · 11-09-07, 07:25 PM

It goes solid with the clutch lever in ready to engage as i said i can select 1st 2nd and neutral without any problems, the engine is running fine it's just trying to get it above 2nd in the sequential process, btw a new clutch cable was fitted recently and the clutch / gear selector mechanism was adjusted.....i wonder if its the gear selector thats gone! it's at its top limit thinking no more gears to select?

11-09-07, 07:47 PM

hi ,im having trouble getting into neutral,all other gears ok any ideas anyone ,cheers

Sid Squid · 11-09-07, 07:59 PM

Muzikill:
Assuming that you've checked the lever and pivot and linkage etc, and if the clutch works OK for the first two and neutral, then that's not likely to be the problem. If the lever goes solid above second then the external shift bits aren't probable as the fault, ordinarily the lever would move as if you were on the way to the gear but not actually do it if they were the problem area.
All the same I'd look there first before having the motor apart.
Fingers further crossed.

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Originally Posted by loneranger

hi ,im having trouble getting into neutral,all other gears ok any ideas anyone ,cheers

Clutch adjustment by far the most likely culprit, search under my name for how to do it.

muzikill · 11-09-07, 08:04 PM

I really think its going to be the selector barrel / forks and possible gear tooth damage on this one!

11-09-07, 08:16 PM

Lot of good information in this thread about Richie's and my recent experience with his SV 'box.

Sounds like a similar-ish problem, although hopefully for you it's something simple as Sid's suggested.

muzikill · 14-03-10, 07:45 PM

i am resurecting an old thread, in a months time i will have the dosh together to fix the bike, any help and advice appreciated

The engine will need to be dropped and split and the gears replaced!

Please, please please help me get back on the road!

TSM · 14-03-10, 10:10 PM

what happened in the middle since 2007?? did you do all the diagnostics?
may just be cheeper to replace the engine complete as to split it you will need to take the barels off, the engine splits verticaly, not horizontaly like say a zx7r, this means you will have lots of gaskets to change

11-09-07, 05:30 PM	#1
muzikill Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dunfermline Posts: 1,712	Gear change problem-can't get past 2nd gear On the way to work today about 5 mins away 3 loud clunks where heard at the bottom of the engine so took it easy and parked up at work was able to get the bike into neutral from top gear easily, now i find i can't get it past 2nd gear, it will select 1st neutral second like normal but won't go any further Something tells me this is a biggy with the engine having to come out for a transmission overhaul, if that's the case the bikes of the road until next year , will have to get the dosh together for this one! Anyone had, this fixed this or any ideas on probable fix or cost then all advice appreciated __________________ Learn to maintain your bike, take it apart, rebuild the engine & more (using better bolts ), drop it & fix it again! K3 Job c.v: Engine:remove/split/rebuild/refit. Replace:Gearbox,Fuel pump,Gaskets. Piston clean,rings. Overhaul:Throttle body,Injectors,Brakes,Forks. Remove/refit:Exhaust,Radiator,Oil cooler,Throttle,Air filter,Tank. Replace: Oil,Coolant,grease,brake hoses & bleed.

11-09-07, 07:13 PM	#2
Sid Squid No, I don't lend tools. Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Skunk Works, Nth London Posts: 8,680	Re: Gear change problem-can't get past 2nd gear Not good, does the lever move up but not get the gear, or does the lever go solid above 2nd? I'd check the external gear selector mechanism first, (under the clutch basket), and cross my fingers. __________________ If an SV650 has a flat tyre in the forest and no-one is there to blow it up, how long will it be 'til someone posts that the reg/rec is duff and the world will end unless a CBR unit is fitted? A little bit of knowledge = a dangerous thing. "a deathless anthem of nuclear-strength romantic angst"

11-09-07, 07:25 PM	#3
muzikill Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dunfermline Posts: 1,712	Re: Gear change problem-can't get past 2nd gear It goes solid with the clutch lever in ready to engage as i said i can select 1st 2nd and neutral without any problems, the engine is running fine it's just trying to get it above 2nd in the sequential process, btw a new clutch cable was fitted recently and the clutch / gear selector mechanism was adjusted.....i wonder if its the gear selector thats gone! it's at its top limit thinking no more gears to select? __________________ Learn to maintain your bike, take it apart, rebuild the engine & more (using better bolts ), drop it & fix it again! K3 Job c.v: Engine:remove/split/rebuild/refit. Replace:Gearbox,Fuel pump,Gaskets. Piston clean,rings. Overhaul:Throttle body,Injectors,Brakes,Forks. Remove/refit:Exhaust,Radiator,Oil cooler,Throttle,Air filter,Tank. Replace: Oil,Coolant,grease,brake hoses & bleed. Last edited by muzikill; 11-09-07 at 07:30 PM.

11-09-07, 07:47 PM	#4
loneranger Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Gear change problem-can't get past 2nd gear hi ,im having trouble getting into neutral,all other gears ok any ideas anyone ,cheers

11-09-07, 08:04 PM	#6
muzikill Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dunfermline Posts: 1,712	Re: Gear change problem-can't get past 2nd gear I really think its going to be the selector barrel / forks and possible gear tooth damage on this one! __________________ Learn to maintain your bike, take it apart, rebuild the engine & more (using better bolts ), drop it & fix it again! K3 Job c.v: Engine:remove/split/rebuild/refit. Replace:Gearbox,Fuel pump,Gaskets. Piston clean,rings. Overhaul:Throttle body,Injectors,Brakes,Forks. Remove/refit:Exhaust,Radiator,Oil cooler,Throttle,Air filter,Tank. Replace: Oil,Coolant,grease,brake hoses & bleed.

11-09-07, 08:16 PM	#7
Dan Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Gear change problem-can't get past 2nd gear Lot of good information in this thread about Richie's and my recent experience with his SV 'box. Sounds like a similar-ish problem, although hopefully for you it's something simple as Sid's suggested.

14-03-10, 07:45 PM	#8
muzikill Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dunfermline Posts: 1,712	Re: Gear change problem-can't get past 2nd gear i am resurecting an old thread, in a months time i will have the dosh together to fix the bike, any help and advice appreciated The engine will need to be dropped and split and the gears replaced! Please, please please help me get back on the road! __________________ Learn to maintain your bike, take it apart, rebuild the engine & more (using better bolts ), drop it & fix it again! K3 Job c.v: Engine:remove/split/rebuild/refit. Replace:Gearbox,Fuel pump,Gaskets. Piston clean,rings. Overhaul:Throttle body,Injectors,Brakes,Forks. Remove/refit:Exhaust,Radiator,Oil cooler,Throttle,Air filter,Tank. Replace: Oil,Coolant,grease,brake hoses & bleed.

14-03-10, 10:10 PM	#9
TSM The Sick Man Mega Poster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Peckham.SE.LDN Posts: 4,768	Re: Gear change problem-can't get past 2nd gear what happened in the middle since 2007?? did you do all the diagnostics? may just be cheeper to replace the engine complete as to split it you will need to take the barels off, the engine splits verticaly, not horizontaly like say a zx7r, this means you will have lots of gaskets to change __________________ OTR: KTM 690 Duke R 2015 Full Akro SIDELINE: Kwak ZX636 A1P 2002, Red, R&G's, Yoshi, Double Bubble Screen GONE: Kwak ZX-7R P1, Full Akro, Undertray, Screen GONE: SV650S K2 Very Bruised & Without Fairing, Motovation Frame Sliders, R&G Ally Sprocket Toe Protector, HEL 2 Line Setup, GSXR K1 600 RWU Forks, Barnett Clutch & Springs, Penske 8981 Shock, Gilles Ti Rearsets, Steel Barends, Scottoiler, AFAM Chain & Sprockets, Twin FIAMM Horns, Skidmarx Bellypan, Full Micron Zeta Steel System, Cut down undertay. Forum Problems & Information / Site Suggestions

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