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Old 28-04-05, 10:15 AM   #1
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im interested in some security, other than my chain and disc lock.

how much does an immobiliser generally cost fitted?

where is a good place to get one from???
whats the best make for the money (insurance approved)?????

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Old 28-04-05, 11:25 AM   #2
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Why?

No bike theif in the world will actually ride your bike away... it'll get shoved in the back of a van.

Cough up £300 on a good alarm, which will also be an immobiliser... or £100 on a quality heavy duty long chain and disc lock.
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Old 28-04-05, 12:04 PM   #3
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Bog standard approved passive immobiliser is about £100-£150 fitted and will give you the same discount as an approved alarmwith most insurers.

If that's what you're after.

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Old 28-04-05, 04:49 PM   #4
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yeah, id go for an alarm immobilizer combo,

only the imobilizer is pointless.

i recommend the meta system over datatool and spyball, simply cos its so easy to operate

push button to arm
push again to disarm.

no sleep, service and fobbin about with the button.
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Old 28-04-05, 05:50 PM   #5
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Unless they come with a little flashing LED an immobiliser system is no visual deterrant - unlike a sodding great chain, or even the humble disc lock.

If a deterrant is all you're after - buy an LED!

The advantage of an immobiliser/alarm is thay in addition to the visual deterrant you have the alert of a siren too if the bike is being moved. (Be that by a potential thief or by someone who can't park their car to save their life!) (Or with Pug's alarm it does seem to be so sensitive it can go off if you look at him funny!)

Datatool's System 3 is easy to use - push button arm/disarm if that's all you want it to do (you can disable the other functions I think). Though things like it's 'service mode' are really handy if you're constantly working on the bike or removing the battery.
It also detects a drop in your battery condition and will warn you if it's on the fritz - this is where the self-sleep is handy as it should mean you don't go to start your bike one morning and fine it dead (providing you don't ignore the warning signs that is!).
The features are nice, but if you don't want 'em - don't use 'em. £250.00 fitted.
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Old 28-04-05, 08:59 PM   #6
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The guys above are spot-on - immobilisers are really good at stopping someone hot-wiring your bike's ignition, something that just happens all the time, right? Yeah, right!

What differentiates alarm systems is really the passive current draw - particularly if you don't ride very day. For example, my daughter's SV has a Datatool system that flattens the battery in five or six days unless she regularly runs the bike up for half-an-hour. When the battery goes flat, the alarm goes off - it thinks someone is disconnecting the battery.

Contact Meta (www.metasystem.co.uk) - unless they've radically changed (in the last two weeks), their systems are good, they're reliable and have low current draw, and they don't sell their stuff to cowboy fitters either.
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Phew... glad I wasn't flamed!

Probably the best alarm on the market is a variant of the Meta alarm, produced by Abletronics. It's validity is recognised for 4 years, rather than the usual 1!
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Phew... glad I wasn't flamed!

Probably the best alarm on the market is a variant of the Meta alarm, produced by Abletronics. It's validity is recognised for 4 years, rather than the usual 1!
I know Meta well - hence my faith in them - but don't know Abletronics. I stand, head bowed, in awe of your knowledge on this one, Big Guy!

But Branny, old bean, if you want to get seriously nerdy, you can go to www.thatcham.org (that's the Assoc. of British Insurer's Research Centre)
and look up the Vehicle Security National Listing for this year. Covers all 'bikes and recognised systems. Go to (about) page 50 and read on.....

It tells you everything you'll ever want to know about almost anything to do with M'cycle security. When you've memorised it, suggest me an' BillyC split your entry fee into Mastermind (specialist subject: Cat MC Thatcham system wire colours...) - 's'long, that is, as we get a third each of your winnings!

Over and out...I've now even bored myself on this topic!!
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The one thing immobilisers are good for is people who leave their keys in the seat lock all the time... Put the ignition key on its own keyfob and your lock keys, garage keys, immobiliser key etc on another, and even if you leave the keys in the ignition nobody's riding it off. Otherwise they're only good for insurance discounts, and for occasionally developing wiring defects and immobilising you in the rain
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