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04-12-05, 05:20 PM

any advice on bike not always wanting to start? press starter switch and nothin happens. its only done it twice in as many days but dont know why. checked starter switch for any probs, all seems ok. press it second or third time and she fires up ok. its never refused to start altogether but just wondered why its happening.

Sid Squid · 04-12-05, 05:40 PM

Do you mean when you press the button that nothing happens, it doesn't turn over at all?If so then check the starter button, sometimes you can check if it's your problem by pressing the button side to side when it's not working

it's a pretty simple bit of electrics. Usually you'll find a bit of circuit board stuff with a contact in the centre, and a ring around it which is the other contact, there's a conical spring that sits on the ring, and is the wire between the board and the button which is on the narrow end of the spring, often the contact on the button gets a bit cruddy, or the where the spring sits on the board is a little corroded..

dirtydog · 04-12-05, 05:58 PM

mine started doing that, it turned out the switch in the clutch lever bit was busted

04-12-05, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Squid

Do you mean when you press the button that nothing happens, it doesn't turn over at all?If so then check the starter button, sometimes you can check if it's your problem by pressing the button side to side when it's not working

it's a pretty simple bit of electrics. Usually you'll find a bit of circuit board stuff with a contact in the centre, and a ring around it which is the other contact, there's a conical spring that sits on the ring, and is the wire between the board and the button which is on the narrow end of the spring, often the contact on the button gets a bit cruddy, or the where the spring sits on the board is a little corroded..

beg pardon peeps, yep...when press starter it doesn't turn over. i checked inside starter assembly for obvious signs of corrosion, muck/water but all looked fine. cleaned unit up and re-assembled. someone had previously suggested to me it could be small electrical unit on clutch lever and i wondered if it was sh*tup. cleaned all contacts but still same problem. went out on it today and after a good run/break, pressed starter...nothing, pressed again and she fired up. i feel it is a connection problem somewhere, will re-check and let you know.

TSM · 04-12-05, 10:34 PM

is it possable that the starter relay has developed a problem?

To rule out the problem completly with the clutch switch, just bridge it with a peice of wire and leave it like. The actual switch does not have the problem, just the triger pin gets worn out so the lever needs to be realy pulled in for it to contact properly.

Have you got an alarm installed??

05-12-05, 04:45 PM

TSM, no alarm is fitted just yet (was thinking of doing this) but i see where your coming from. i noticed on a few threads that total non starters are quite frequent. like you peeps suggested, i'll have a look when get time, thanks for suggestions by the way.

07-12-05, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSM

is it possable that the starter relay has developed a problem?

To rule out the problem completly with the clutch switch, just bridge it with a peice of wire and leave it like. The actual switch does not have the problem, just the triger pin gets worn out so the lever needs to be realy pulled in for it to contact properly.

Have you got an alarm installed??

checked starter relay (click) working fine, checked all wiring to both switches for any faults and seemed fine. problem was the engine kill switch had a very small corroded contact. too small to see (opticians tomorrow) but enough to cause a glitch. again thoroughly cleaned switch unit and she blips into life first time. thanks for suggestions though.

07-12-05, 07:25 PM

Take it you've tried the usual side stand switch routine (i.e clean it out, it may be sticking) but then again, I can't remember if my sv had done of those or not!

09-12-05, 05:13 PM

yep, checked that and ok, good point though.

04-12-05, 05:20 PM	#1
madmal Guest Posts: n/a	will she stay or will she go any advice on bike not always wanting to start? press starter switch and nothin happens. its only done it twice in as many days but dont know why. checked starter switch for any probs, all seems ok. press it second or third time and she fires up ok. its never refused to start altogether but just wondered why its happening.

04-12-05, 05:40 PM	#2
Sid Squid No, I don't lend tools. Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Skunk Works, Nth London Posts: 8,680	Do you mean when you press the button that nothing happens, it doesn't turn over at all?If so then check the starter button, sometimes you can check if it's your problem by pressing the button side to side when it's not working it's a pretty simple bit of electrics. Usually you'll find a bit of circuit board stuff with a contact in the centre, and a ring around it which is the other contact, there's a conical spring that sits on the ring, and is the wire between the board and the button which is on the narrow end of the spring, often the contact on the button gets a bit cruddy, or the where the spring sits on the board is a little corroded.. __________________ If an SV650 has a flat tyre in the forest and no-one is there to blow it up, how long will it be 'til someone posts that the reg/rec is duff and the world will end unless a CBR unit is fitted? A little bit of knowledge = a dangerous thing. "a deathless anthem of nuclear-strength romantic angst"

04-12-05, 05:58 PM	#3
dirtydog Knob faced knobster Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Haslemere Posts: 5,419	mine started doing that, it turned out the switch in the clutch lever bit was busted __________________ 2001 SV650 in shimmerin green, Not broken anymore

04-12-05, 10:34 PM	#5
TSM The Sick Man Mega Poster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Peckham.SE.LDN Posts: 4,768	is it possable that the starter relay has developed a problem? To rule out the problem completly with the clutch switch, just bridge it with a peice of wire and leave it like. The actual switch does not have the problem, just the triger pin gets worn out so the lever needs to be realy pulled in for it to contact properly. Have you got an alarm installed?? __________________ OTR: KTM 690 Duke R 2015 Full Akro SIDELINE: Kwak ZX636 A1P 2002, Red, R&G's, Yoshi, Double Bubble Screen GONE: Kwak ZX-7R P1, Full Akro, Undertray, Screen GONE: SV650S K2 Very Bruised & Without Fairing, Motovation Frame Sliders, R&G Ally Sprocket Toe Protector, HEL 2 Line Setup, GSXR K1 600 RWU Forks, Barnett Clutch & Springs, Penske 8981 Shock, Gilles Ti Rearsets, Steel Barends, Scottoiler, AFAM Chain & Sprockets, Twin FIAMM Horns, Skidmarx Bellypan, Full Micron Zeta Steel System, Cut down undertay. Forum Problems & Information / Site Suggestions

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05-12-05, 04:45 PM	#6
madmal Guest Posts: n/a	TSM, no alarm is fitted just yet (was thinking of doing this) but i see where your coming from. i noticed on a few threads that total non starters are quite frequent. like you peeps suggested, i'll have a look when get time, thanks for suggestions by the way.

07-12-05, 07:25 PM	#8
instigator Guest Posts: n/a	Take it you've tried the usual side stand switch routine (i.e clean it out, it may be sticking) but then again, I can't remember if my sv had done of those or not!

09-12-05, 05:13 PM	#9
madmal Guest Posts: n/a	yep, checked that and ok, good point though.