Push or Pull?? - SV650.org

11-05-05, 05:21 PM

I have been wondering this for a while. How do you counter steer

With a push or a pull

I pull on the opposite bar.

11-05-05, 05:22 PM

wish I knew

11-05-05, 05:22 PM

Both

11-05-05, 05:34 PM

pull

11-05-05, 05:34 PM

i dont really, i lean and just let the bars guide my hands.

11-05-05, 05:39 PM

Push is the only way to do it. I've tried both, tried pushing one, pulling the other (easily get confused and do the wrong way

) but after discussion with Rictus (and he made this very clear

) pushing is the way to go. After my own experimentation I agree with him.

.

BillyC · 11-05-05, 05:53 PM

Generally push... but if you need to do something quickly... then a bit of pulling is required too!

11-05-05, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonboy

Push is the only way to do it. I've tried both, tried pushing one, pulling the other (easily get confused and do the wrong way

) but after discussion with Rictus (and he made this very clear

) pushing is the way to go. After my own experimentation I agree with him.

.

Which is why I put this post up. Tried the pushing on the way home. It feels alien doing it, but did seem somewhat smoother.

11-05-05, 06:12 PM

I pull out of habit, but when I remember or really need to get in tightly I push as well.

11-05-05, 06:22 PM

Push.

If you find it wierd then don 'try' to do it. Instead, when leaning into a corner shift your upper body slightly towards the inside handle bar - the transferrance of weight will automatically make you countersteer slightly.

It can help to actually drop your outside shoulder slightly too. This is probably a really bad description - but if taking a left-hander = keep your head upright, pull you right shoulder down towards your left hip slightly whilst shifting your left shoulder towards the inside of the corner.
Don't worry about conciously applying pressure on either of the bars - let your weight do it for you.

It's kind of a

movement!

Once that feels more natural then you can actually think about applying pressure onto the inside bar - then pushing down on the inside peg too.

One simple reason for pushing rather than pulling - if you need to use your fingers in an emergency for either brake or clutch, with the weight being pushed onto your hand rather then pulling on your fingers it's far easier to free/shift your grip.

Hope that helps, sorry if it just confuses you more.

It's one of those things that is far easier to show than explain.

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11-05-05, 05:21 PM	#1
Stig Guest Posts: n/a	Push or Pull?? I have been wondering this for a while. How do you counter steer With a push or a pull I pull on the opposite bar.

11-05-05, 05:53 PM	#7
BillyC Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The exiles of Kent Posts: 2,184	Generally push... but if you need to do something quickly... then a bit of pulling is required too! __________________ SV650 K3 - Gone. Now a member of the SV650.org Kawasaki brigade!

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11-05-05, 05:34 PM	#5
Warren Guest Posts: n/a	i dont really, i lean and just let the bars guide my hands.

11-05-05, 05:39 PM	#6
jonboy Guest Posts: n/a	Push is the only way to do it. I've tried both, tried pushing one, pulling the other (easily get confused and do the wrong way ) but after discussion with Rictus (and he made this very clear ) pushing is the way to go. After my own experimentation I agree with him. .

11-05-05, 06:12 PM	#9
Carsick Guest Posts: n/a	I pull out of habit, but when I remember or really need to get in tightly I push as well.

11-05-05, 06:22 PM	#10
K Guest Posts: n/a	Push. If you find it wierd then don 'try' to do it. Instead, when leaning into a corner shift your upper body slightly towards the inside handle bar - the transferrance of weight will automatically make you countersteer slightly. It can help to actually drop your outside shoulder slightly too. This is probably a really bad description - but if taking a left-hander = keep your head upright, pull you right shoulder down towards your left hip slightly whilst shifting your left shoulder towards the inside of the corner. Don't worry about conciously applying pressure on either of the bars - let your weight do it for you. It's kind of a movement! Once that feels more natural then you can actually think about applying pressure onto the inside bar - then pushing down on the inside peg too. One simple reason for pushing rather than pulling - if you need to use your fingers in an emergency for either brake or clutch, with the weight being pushed onto your hand rather then pulling on your fingers it's far easier to free/shift your grip. Hope that helps, sorry if it just confuses you more. It's one of those things that is far easier to show than explain.