Catalonia

[Talking Heads]

Originally Posted by embee

Had they opened the vote to all UK residents they would have won easily. He wasn't quite sure how to take that.

Yep, there are vocal types in Englandshire who would have you believe that Scotland is a subsidy junkie.
But at the same time Westminster do their damndest to keep a hold of Scotland.
Wonder why that is...?

[littleoldman2]

Originally Posted by Talking Heads

Yep, there are vocal types in Englandshire who would have you believe that Scotland is a subsidy junkie.
But at the same time Westminster do their damndest to keep a hold of Scotland.
Wonder why that is...?

I'm sure many soft southern shandy drinkers feel the same about all of the north of the UK. You have to remember the REAL news does not matter all people prefer affirmation over information everytime.

Those who know me, know just how much I love Scotland and I don't want a separation. I was with 8 English people having breakfast in an Austrian hotel, the morning after the referendum. The owner of the hotel said "for those who are interested, yesterday the Scots voted to stay" everyone except me growned.

I know very little about Catalonia as I've only visited Barcelona twice. But it is obvious that a large proportion of the population is Spanish rather than Catalan. I hope it doesn't end in to much unpleasantness.

[embee]

Originally Posted by Talking Heads

Yep, there are vocal types in Englandshire who would have you believe that Scotland is a subsidy junkie.
But at the same time Westminster do their damndest to keep a hold of Scotland.
Wonder why that is...?

I'm not sure it's the subsidy junkie theory, rather it's just that when a member nation where nearly half the voters want to leave the union and get all stroppy about it, it tends to wind people up in the rest of the union nations, if they want to leave then crack on. Don't blame the Englandshire dwellers, they didn't start it (other than 300yrs ago). Personally I'm glad Scotland didn't break up the union, and the majority of Scots voters thought the same apparently, so we're all in agreement there.

[Talking Heads]

Originally Posted by embee

the majority of Scots voters thought the same apparently, so we're all in agreement there.

Fact check...

Only 2,001,926 out of 4,283,392 registered voters voted No.

Like Brexit, the No vote was won on a raft of false promises.

[Luckypants]

Originally Posted by Talking Heads

Fact check...

Only 2,001,926 out of 4,283,392 registered voters voted No.

Like Brexit, the No vote was won on a raft of false promises.

"Fact Check"

2,001,926 voted no (55.3%)
1,617,989 voted yes (44.7%)
3429 Spoilt papers (0.09%)

3,623,344 voted (84.59% of the electorate) of your 4,283,392 registered voters.

The majority of Scots who voted, voted no.

[SV650rules]

Originally Posted by Talking Heads

Fact check...

Only 2,001,926 out of 4,283,392 registered voters voted No.

Like Brexit, the No vote was won on a raft of false promises.

I knew we would get around to Brexit eventually.......................................

If people cannot be ar3ed to vote, tough - they cannot complain about the outcome.


In run-up to Brexit there was 'project fear' on the remain side to counteract 'project false promises' on the leave side, probably same happened in Scotland.

Don't kid yourself that the £350M a week for NHS convinced anyone, they knew that 'status quo' is never an option with EU grand federal superstate and we were being sucked further and further in - centralised tax cards, and european army plus distinct possibility of Turkey being allowed in as part of the latest EU land grab (after they got a bloody nose from Putin over Ukraine LOL). In the end it was loss of our laws and borders that tipped the balance, uncontrolled immigration and free movement of north african / middle east 'refugees' clinched it for most people. Not many people realise that the UK was taken into common market (EEC) illegally by Edward Heath - against our laws forbidding the 'handing over of control to any foreign power' and without a referendum, Harold Wilson came to power and organised as hasty referendum to put things on a 'legal' basis, but the question was 'should UK remain a member of the common market', and many times since the EU has dodged triggering referendums in member countries by dressing up large changes as 'minor treaty tweaks' - and our politicians bless them have gone along with the ploy (including Maggie T).

Originally Posted by Luckypants

"Fact Check"

2,001,926 voted no (55.3%)
1,617,989 voted yes (44.7%)
3429 Spoilt papers (0.09%)

3,623,344 voted (84.59% of the electorate) of your 4,283,392 registered voters.

The majority of Scots who voted, voted no.

+100

This article explains a lot............

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/01/...eir-education/

[Trev B]

People get fed up after a while seeing big brother getting bigger and stronger while little brother keeps getting a good hiding but receives 3 meals a day

[Talking Heads]

Originally Posted by Luckypants

"Fact Check"

2,001,926 voted no (55.3%)
1,617,989 voted yes (44.7%)
3429 Spoilt papers (0.09%)

3,623,344 voted (84.59% of the electorate) of your 4,283,392 registered voters.

The majority of Scots who voted, voted no.

I like my fact better!

[embee]

I used the word "voters" rather than "electorate" for a good reason.

[Talking Heads]

Originally Posted by embee

I used the word "voters" rather than "electorate" for a good reason.

As did I when I wrote "registered voters"
(which is a smaller number than the total number of people eligible to vote)