The Covid19 thread

[Luckypants]

North Wales police are still turning away people from the Midlands, Greater Manchester and even London from our beauty spots. People seem to think its OK to travel without a thought for the situation at their destination. Wales is still in lockdown. Crowds of people is asking for trouble, inside or out - I think the effects of last year's Cheltenham festival is testament to that.

Again its the wrong tone being set by the government. They're all "we're nearly through this, we'll open the pubs soon" instead of "the numbers are still higher than the end of lockdown #1, no change until the infection rates get down to those levels" - There are still more people being infected daily than at the peak of the first wave.....

[keith_d]

OK, I've had the Astra Zeneca vaccine according the card. That meant a sore shoulder and a day feeling slightly mouldy. No worse than the old Typhoid vaccinations.

Now we just have to wait and see if the Brazil/P.1 variant can out evolve the vaccine. For those people who are interested, there's a nice article from the lancet describing the resurgence of Covid in Manaus.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...183-5/fulltext

In an ideal world the second dose of vaccine would include the spike proteins from the E484K mutation, but I doubt any of the manufacturers will be able to get it approved and into production in the next 12 weeks.

[Seeker]

I'm not saying the government are slow to act...

...well, yes I am.

They were questioned about responses to Brazilian mutation almost 7 weeks ago.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/boris-john...163723306.html

[DJ123]

Originally Posted by Luckypants

North Wales police are still turning away people from the Midlands, Greater Manchester and even London from our beauty spots. People seem to think its OK to travel without a thought for the situation at their destination. Wales is still in lockdown. Crowds of people is asking for trouble, inside or out - I think the effects of last year's Cheltenham festival is testament to that.

Again its the wrong tone being set by the government. They're all "we're nearly through this, we'll open the pubs soon" instead of "the numbers are still higher than the end of lockdown #1, no change until the infection rates get down to those levels" - There are still more people being infected daily than at the peak of the first wave.....

With those figures i would say we are finding more cases now as we are testing more people, and there are also more symptoms recognised as Covid since a year ago.
So it's not a like for like comparison on true data for both circumstances.

[svenrico]

Originally Posted by Seeker

I'm not saying the government are slow to act...

...well, yes I am.

They were questioned about responses to Brazilian mutation almost 7 weeks ago.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/boris-john...163723306.html

I wondered a while ago, when they were showing people on tv waiting in airport lounges ,why so many people were still flying in and out of the country !

[svenrico]

Originally Posted by embee

The UK media would like us to think that EU countries have something "against" the UK, that we are picked on in some way, always useful to portray us as the plucky underdogs.
My experience of being in EU countries is that they are almost totally indifferent to the UK, we just don't feature on their radar most of the time. The national news in France or Germany or Austria scarcely ever even mentions the UK, and hasn't done in the 25 odd years I've spent any time there.
It's usually presented in our media as the UK vs EU, as though it's one to one. Germany for example has borders with 9 other countries, they spend every day working with "foreigners" from those countries coming in and out and it really isn't seen as much of a big deal. They saw the UK as one of 28 in the EU, not as one of one.
The Pfizer/BioNtech vaccine is developed by Turkish scientists working in Germany for a German/US combined effort and the doses are manufactured in Belgium. It's not an issue who and where. They really aren't bothered about stuff being made in the UK or Netherlands or wherever, but it appears the UK media like to think they are.

National news in EU countries must have been mentioning brexit during the years since the referendum !
ps Perhaps there should be a separate thread on here for EU related comments !

[embee]

Originally Posted by svenrico

National news in EU countries must have been mentioning brexit during the years since the referendum !
ps Perhaps there should be a separate thread on here for EU related comments !

Of course, but not to anything like the extent UK media has, for obvious reasons. It has dominated our current affairs for 4 1/2 years, it hasn't dominated France's or Germany's etc. They have other problems of their own to deal with, stuff which is never mentioned in UK media, it's reciprocal.

[svenrico]

Originally Posted by embee

Of course, but not to anything like the extent UK media has, for obvious reasons. It has dominated our current affairs for 4 1/2 years, it hasn't dominated France's or Germany's etc. They have other problems of their own to deal with, stuff which is never mentioned in UK media, it's reciprocal.

I suppose the UK is too preoccupied with American politics to bother much about European countries !

[svenrico]

Originally Posted by embee

Of course, but not to anything like the extent UK media has, for obvious reasons. It has dominated our current affairs for 4 1/2 years, it hasn't dominated France's or Germany's etc. They have other problems of their own to deal with, stuff which is never mentioned in UK media, it's reciprocal.

I suppose the UK is too preoccupied with American politics to bother much about European countries !
p s sorry, posted twice

[admin]

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