Daytime MOT - Police view - SV650.org

DarrenSV650S · 12-05-09, 06:49 PM

Does anyone know for CERTAIN how the police view bikes with no lights at all?

I got stopped tonight and they said they were not sure whether it was legal or not. I told them about the mot and how I am not to use the bike at "times of seriously reduced visibility" - as it says on the mot advisory note.

They said something about how all bikes manufactured after 1989ish must have lights on them. And they thought I should at least have a brake light. I said that if I had a brake light, then I would also need to have all the other lights to pass the mot.

They are going to check it out and let me know. In the mean time I have to hand in my mot certificate and advisory note

Has this happened to anyone else?

12-05-09, 06:53 PM

I have had words with a bobby in a panda car about the lack of lights on my CBR - I told him to call up traffic and ask them if he didn't believe it could be ridden legally like that and he wouldn't. In the end I actually called my MOT man up on my own phone and had him talk to the copper to explain the law.

There's no way I'd give up my MOT certificate and advisory. If they want to make copies then fair play, but it belongs to me and they have no right to take it from me for any trumped up reason. Get a decent lawyer if they start to push things down the prosecution route, and make them look stupid in court if it comes to it.

DarrenSV650S · 12-05-09, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lozzo

I have had words with a bobby in a panda car about the lack of lights on my CBR - I told him to call up traffic and ask them if he didn't believe it could be ridden legally like that and he wouldn't. In the end I actually called my MOT man up on my own phone and had him talk to the copper to explain the law.

There's no way I'd give up my MOT certificate and advisory. If they want to make copies then fair play, but it belongs to me and they have no right to take it from me for any trumped up reason. Get a decent lawyer if they start to push things down the prosecution route, and make them look stupid in court if it comes to it.

They said they were going to check it out with my mot place. So did they admit that it was legal?

Spiderman · 12-05-09, 06:57 PM

Found this on Visordown for you, from this thread: http://www.visordown.com/forum/forum...UTN=175733&V=2

im an mot tester and your bike has to have ALL the lights or NONE of the lights, and it doesnt need a horn or mirrors either for a daylight mot. but it does need a full size number plate, helps keep the feds at bay. ive got a daylight use only r6 and ive never been pulled even in wales!!!

Weather or not you wanna believe this guy or anything you find on Visordown is up to you of course.

timwilky · 12-05-09, 07:00 PM

My understanding is you should not have a brake light for a daytime MOT

DarrenSV650S · 12-05-09, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiderman

Found this on Visordown for you, from this thread: http://www.visordown.com/forum/forum...UTN=175733&V=2

im an mot tester and your bike has to have ALL the lights or NONE of the lights, and it doesnt need a horn or mirrors either for a daylight mot. but it does need a full size number plate, helps keep the feds at bay. ive got a daylight use only r6 and ive never been pulled even in wales!!!

Weather or not you wanna believe this guy or anything you find on Visordown is up to you of course.

My mot tester said I needed a horn and a reflector only

Spiderman · 12-05-09, 07:06 PM

Mate i know nothing,

Just found that thread and within the first few posts they were contradicting each other so i thought it might be interesting for you.

G · 12-05-09, 07:11 PM

I knew day time MOT's existed, but I find it amazing that you dont need at least a brake light, even for your own safety.

pmapp · 12-05-09, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenSV650S

My mot tester said I needed a horn and a reflector only

I know this was the case a few years ago - and I can't see it having changed between then and now.

fizzwheel · 12-05-09, 07:13 PM

PM Bluepete he's a traffic officer, he's probably the best person to ask.

12-05-09, 06:49 PM	#1
DarrenSV650S Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dundee Posts: 4,408	Daytime MOT - Police view Does anyone know for CERTAIN how the police view bikes with no lights at all? I got stopped tonight and they said they were not sure whether it was legal or not. I told them about the mot and how I am not to use the bike at "times of seriously reduced visibility" - as it says on the mot advisory note. They said something about how all bikes manufactured after 1989ish must have lights on them. And they thought I should at least have a brake light. I said that if I had a brake light, then I would also need to have all the other lights to pass the mot. They are going to check it out and let me know. In the mean time I have to hand in my mot certificate and advisory note Has this happened to anyone else?

12-05-09, 06:53 PM	#2
Lozzo Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Daytime MOT - Police view I have had words with a bobby in a panda car about the lack of lights on my CBR - I told him to call up traffic and ask them if he didn't believe it could be ridden legally like that and he wouldn't. In the end I actually called my MOT man up on my own phone and had him talk to the copper to explain the law. There's no way I'd give up my MOT certificate and advisory. If they want to make copies then fair play, but it belongs to me and they have no right to take it from me for any trumped up reason. Get a decent lawyer if they start to push things down the prosecution route, and make them look stupid in court if it comes to it.

12-05-09, 06:57 PM	#4
Spiderman Where the hell am I? Mega Poster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Swingin' thru the urban jungle Posts: 7,451	Re: Daytime MOT - Police view Found this on Visordown for you, from this thread: http://www.visordown.com/forum/forum...UTN=175733&V=2 im an mot tester and your bike has to have ALL the lights or NONE of the lights, and it doesnt need a horn or mirrors either for a daylight mot. but it does need a full size number plate, helps keep the feds at bay. ive got a daylight use only r6 and ive never been pulled even in wales!!! Weather or not you wanna believe this guy or anything you find on Visordown is up to you of course. __________________ . "Computers are great! Not for communicating tho. They have one fundamental flaw ... they don't have eyebrows." AlpineCarStereo: you win ....... eeerrr ..... ummm ..... my undying support of you, the greatest Mod this forum has ever known. My Leige. davepreston: i bow to your modding godliness. vixis: He's this really cute Persian tea-boy, Im so not giving you his number :P

12-05-09, 07:00 PM	#5
timwilky Member Mega Poster Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Not in Yorkshire. (Thank God) Posts: 4,116	Re: Daytime MOT - Police view My understanding is you should not have a brake light for a daytime MOT __________________ Not Grumpy, opinionated.

12-05-09, 07:06 PM	#7
Spiderman Where the hell am I? Mega Poster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Swingin' thru the urban jungle Posts: 7,451	Re: Daytime MOT - Police view Mate i know nothing, Just found that thread and within the first few posts they were contradicting each other so i thought it might be interesting for you. __________________ . "Computers are great! Not for communicating tho. They have one fundamental flaw ... they don't have eyebrows." AlpineCarStereo: you win ....... eeerrr ..... ummm ..... my undying support of you, the greatest Mod this forum has ever known. My Leige. davepreston: i bow to your modding godliness. vixis: He's this really cute Persian tea-boy, Im so not giving you his number :P

12-05-09, 07:11 PM	#8
G Member Mega Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,770	Re: Daytime MOT - Police view I knew day time MOT's existed, but I find it amazing that you dont need at least a brake light, even for your own safety. __________________ 6.67300 × 10-11 m3 kg-1 s-2

12-05-09, 07:13 PM	#10
fizzwheel Super Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Somerset Posts: 3,614	Re: Daytime MOT - Police view PM Bluepete he's a traffic officer, he's probably the best person to ask. __________________ Look Dave, I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over. K5 GSXR 750 Anniversary Edition

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