Front brake question

I have a couple of questions:

The first is what size disks do we have on the pointy S?
This sort of leads into the second....
The new Bandit 1250 has a 4 pot caliper fitted on 310mm disks. They are on RWU forks. What's the feasibility of fitting them on to the SV? I know that if the diameter of the disk is different then that will have an effect on the placement of the caliper, but if that can be got round then why not?
BTW I'm not really that interested in the GSXR front end conversion, and that is why I am thinking along these lines.

Also is it the same caliper that the SV1000 uses?

Just a thought like, I do not need anybody shooting it down before it has a chance to get off the ground. If there are issues what are they, and what are the potential solutions to these issues? (No - the GSXR conv is not a solution)

Cheers All

Paul

[rictus01]

Specifiations and manuals for all the models are on thee main page, you can get all the information for them.

Cheers Mark.

[fizzwheel]

SV thou is different I think. I'm sure it has forks and brakes from a GSXR-750, I think is the K3 model but I'm not 100% sure.

I dont know about the other brake stuff, but if I were you I'd be looking to re-spring your front forks and maybe change the fork oil. I found that on Liz's SV with a resprung front end ( progressives ) the brakes work better than they do on my curvey with a stock front end ( apart from fork oil )

Even with better front brakes, because the SV front suspension is a bit squidgy you wont get all the benefit that you might from a brake upgrade if you leave the front forks standard.

Originally Posted by Caddy2000

BTW I'm not really that interested in the GSXR front end conversion

you can put gsx-r callipers on SV forks without swapping the whole front end for a gsx-r one

you used to be able to get adaptor plates from here:

http://highspeedassault.com/sv.htm

but, sadly, they don't make them any longer. you may be able to get a set from someone on the forum though

the usual caveats about beefing up the springs/oil before upgrading the brakes apply

[northwind]

Thing is, you can't just bolt GSXR calipers to stock forks and expect it to work, you'll get tons more dive on the brakes and not be able to use the extra power. SV brakes on good forks will stop you faster than good brakes on SV forks IMO.

SV thou uses GSXR750 calipers as Fizzwheel says, and smaller discs- think they're 310mm. B12 has totally different forks to the SV so it'll probably not be a simple swap- I'd be surprised if the new B12 forks are much different from the SV thou in fact.

Originally Posted by rictus01

Specifiations and manuals for all the models are on thee main page, you can get all the information for them.

Cheers Mark.

Cheers mate, I've got the spec for the SV650S k3, I just wondered if the new Bandit had new brakes (heard a rumour - or dreamt it), and if it did, would the 4 pots fit?
Hope the Knee's coming along well Mark

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

SV thou is different I think. I'm sure it has forks and brakes from a GSXR-750, I think is the K3 model but I'm not 100% sure.

I dont know about the other brake stuff, but if I were you I'd be looking to re-spring your front forks and maybe change the fork oil. I found that on Liz's SV with a resprung front end ( progressives ) the brakes work better than they do on my curvey with a stock front end ( apart from fork oil )

Even with better front brakes, because the SV front suspension is a bit squidgy you wont get all the benefit that you might from a brake upgrade if you leave the front forks standard.

I've already uprated the suspension with Ohlins front and rear, and about to drop Matris cartridges in (when they arrive). I've also got braided line which have increased the stopping power greatly - they could still do with more feel though, and I was bored at work and the thought popped into my brain....

Any takers?

Originally Posted by northwind

Thing is, you can't just bolt GSXR calipers to stock forks and expect it to work, you'll get tons more dive on the brakes and not be able to use the extra power. SV brakes on good forks will stop you faster than good brakes on SV forks IMO.

SV thou uses GSXR750 calipers as Fizzwheel says, and smaller discs- think they're 310mm. B12 has totally different forks to the SV so it'll probably not be a simple swap- I'd be surprised if the new B12 forks are much different from the SV thou in fact.

Just got the 'B12' bit mate

sv thou brakes are a big improvement on its little brothers brakes.

Originally Posted by kwak zzr

sv thou brakes are a big improvement on its little brothers brakes.

Rub it in why don't you

[21QUEST]

All I'll say is watch this space.

I'm in the process of trying to sorting out some adapter plates so I can use the calipers off the SV1000, GSXr600(K1-K4) and GSXR 750(K1-K3). They'll be CNC machines out of Aluminium and anodised to what ever colour takes my fancy. My reason for wanting to change the calipers is simple. I find four piston calipers easier to maintain.

It'll be going on standard forks by the way . I'm happy with the springs on my bike for what I use it for and with the oil change I've just done, It's working good for me.

My initial thought on caliper change was the same as most have said here but actually when you think of it, that's not strictly the case.
Braking pressure is modulated by your right hand like and so if any thing you should be able to modulate the about of braking better with the GIXER calipers .

As the little man said "watch this space" if you like as this is one of my "thought of" MODs that I'm definitely making time for.


Ben