Gripe of the day - What is yours? - Page 919 - SV650.org

Seeker · 06-02-21, 09:12 AM

Tories and the NHS again: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...-b1798345.html

svenrico · 07-02-21, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Seeker

Tories and the NHS again: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...-b1798345.html

The spin they gave it on tv news today seemed to be there would be less work going out to private companies , but who knows ! They seen to have been awarding plenty of contracts to their 'mates ' recently. They talk about accountability, was anybody held accountable for the purchase/ supply of unsuitable ppe equipment ?!

Luckypants · 07-02-21, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Seeker

Tories and the NHS again: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...-b1798345.html

This move is supported by Jeremy Hunt, its got to be bad for the NHS.

embee · 07-02-21, 01:55 PM

As a rule of thumb, politicians don't voluntarily give up any control, they increase their control. If they claim they are reducing it, be very wary.
Always read the small print, and if there isn't any then don't vote for it, because as soon as you have voted for it they'll fill in their own details.

Seeker · 07-02-21, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by embee

As a rule of thumb, politicians don't voluntarily give up any control, they increase their control. If they claim they are reducing it, be very wary.
Always read the small print, and if there isn't any then don't vote for it, because as soon as you have voted for it they'll fill in their own details.

Normalising corruption...

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/po...-report/14/10/

and here's the media bias report on The London Economic:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-london-economic/

svenrico · 07-02-21, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by embee

As a rule of thumb, politicians don't voluntarily give up any control, they increase their control. If they claim they are reducing it, be very wary.
Always read the small print, and if there isn't any then don't vote for it, because as soon as you have voted for it they'll fill in their own details.

- but we aren't being asked to vote on anything !

svenrico · 07-02-21, 05:12 PM

How can the EU have any say in what happens between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK ? If they can it shows the problem of agreeing on the Irish border situation never really was sorted out.

Adam Ef · 08-02-21, 01:28 PM

The price of cars.

+ We're trying to find something that will be (mainly affordable) able to be used by my wife for her work in and around Bristol. Supposedly there's a diesel ban starting this March. No news of it actually going ahead yet though. There's also going to be a clean air zone, where vehicle must be below 100gCO2 etc... basically Euro 6. So the one car we're looking at is the Civic Tourer Estate (we need space for family and dog for trips.. when we're allowed again). The petrol version is allowed into the deisel ban zone in the centre. But it can't get there as it's 150gCO2, so can't go into the clean air zone. The diesel version is actually very clean, Euro 6 so can get into the clean air zone area to get to the centre but then can't go into the centre, because it's diesel. So the more polluting car is able to get further into Bristol, if it can do a leap over the area it fails. The less polluting car isn't allowed into the centre.

Electric is absurd prices and hybrids are a joke and usually higher CO2 overall and much lower mpg, but strangely allowed everywhere and no tax etc.

The system and rules seem a bit messed up and there's not really any viable options if you're on a budget but want to be able to continue working.

Sir Trev · 08-02-21, 07:14 PM

Is moving house an option Adam?

I'll get me coat...

Adam Ef · 08-02-21, 08:59 PM

No problems where we live. We're on the edge of the countryside. It's having one car that can get us to work though, around and in the city and also be family friendly and capable of longer journeys to relatives in Cornwall etc.

I said I wouldn't get another diesel with the way things are going for them, but it really looks like the only option at the moment.

06-02-21, 09:12 AM	#9181
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07-02-21, 01:55 PM	#9184
embee Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 2,801	Re: Gripe of the day - What is yours? As a rule of thumb, politicians don't voluntarily give up any control, they increase their control. If they claim they are reducing it, be very wary. Always read the small print, and if there isn't any then don't vote for it, because as soon as you have voted for it they'll fill in their own details. __________________ "Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity"

07-02-21, 05:12 PM	#9187
svenrico Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 373	Re: Gripe of the day - What is yours? How can the EU have any say in what happens between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK ? If they can it shows the problem of agreeing on the Irish border situation never really was sorted out.

08-02-21, 01:28 PM	#9188
Adam Ef Member Mega Poster Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Bristol Posts: 1,200	Re: Gripe of the day - What is yours? The price of cars. + We're trying to find something that will be (mainly affordable) able to be used by my wife for her work in and around Bristol. Supposedly there's a diesel ban starting this March. No news of it actually going ahead yet though. There's also going to be a clean air zone, where vehicle must be below 100gCO2 etc... basically Euro 6. So the one car we're looking at is the Civic Tourer Estate (we need space for family and dog for trips.. when we're allowed again). The petrol version is allowed into the deisel ban zone in the centre. But it can't get there as it's 150gCO2, so can't go into the clean air zone. The diesel version is actually very clean, Euro 6 so can get into the clean air zone area to get to the centre but then can't go into the centre, because it's diesel. So the more polluting car is able to get further into Bristol, if it can do a leap over the area it fails. The less polluting car isn't allowed into the centre. Electric is absurd prices and hybrids are a joke and usually higher CO2 overall and much lower mpg, but strangely allowed everywhere and no tax etc. The system and rules seem a bit messed up and there's not really any viable options if you're on a budget but want to be able to continue working. __________________ >>> ? <<< Past: Street Triple 765rs, DRZ400s,GSXR1000 K9, VFR800 A8, ZX6R 636 2006, CRF250L, GSXR750 K7, VFR800 A7, GSXR750 L3, Street Triple 675R, MT09 Tracer, SV650s K8, CB250rsd, YBR125... Last edited by Adam Ef; 08-02-21 at 01:29 PM.

08-02-21, 07:14 PM	#9189
Sir Trev Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: High Wycombe, where the chair factories used to be Posts: 1,440	Re: Gripe of the day - What is yours? Is moving house an option Adam? I'll get me coat... __________________ We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town, BEEP BEEP!

08-02-21, 08:59 PM	#9190
Adam Ef Member Mega Poster Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Bristol Posts: 1,200	Re: Gripe of the day - What is yours? No problems where we live. We're on the edge of the countryside. It's having one car that can get us to work though, around and in the city and also be family friendly and capable of longer journeys to relatives in Cornwall etc. I said I wouldn't get another diesel with the way things are going for them, but it really looks like the only option at the moment. __________________ >>> ? <<< Past: Street Triple 765rs, DRZ400s,GSXR1000 K9, VFR800 A8, ZX6R 636 2006, CRF250L, GSXR750 K7, VFR800 A7, GSXR750 L3, Street Triple 675R, MT09 Tracer, SV650s K8, CB250rsd, YBR125...

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