Proposal for Daylight Running Lights on ALL vehicles. - SV650.org

15-12-06, 05:04 PM

Here's an interesting article on how "Europe" wants to take away the little advantage we might have in respect of catching the eyes of motorists etc.

http://www.mag-uk.org/content/campai...drl/magdrl.htm

Scary stuff!

Garry

15-12-06, 05:12 PM

A rather stupid idea: No safety benefit (less than none for us), environmentally unfriendly (more energy used), expensive (more times more bulbs will be used up per year).

Still, we get the government we vote for, eh? Oh, wait, we didn't vote for them...

northwind · 15-12-06, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ceri JC

environmentally unfriendly (more energy used)

Not really... Cars and bikes generate electricity all the time, just that a lot of it is wasted. As for wasted bulbs, bulb life is mainly erestricted by power cycling and accident damage, they rarely fail from use. MTF on a Silverstar is something nuts like 100000 hours.

15-12-06, 05:30 PM

I think what Ceri JC meant, was more light pollution :P

Also, if all cars have lights on all the time, it means bikes stand out from the crowd less. Hmm.

Stu · 15-12-06, 05:37 PM

If they got the type of DLR light right it would be good.
I like cars with sidelights on and bikes with headlights.
Helps me distinguish moving cars from parked ones for one thing.
And with LED's coming in no failure or electricity consumption problems.

15-12-06, 07:06 PM

Here in Sweden it is required to have lights on even daytime on all motor driven vehicles (not bicycles). Actually i have never been thinking of the fact that motorcycles would be more visible if they were the only vehicles with lights on during daytime, but you may have a point there... On the other hand i find it quite hard to see a car with no lights on, maybe because you expect the headlights to be on as soon as the engine is started.
I normalyy drive with full beam on when outside city limits. Better annoy some people than not be seen by others.

15-12-06, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by northwind

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceri JC

environmentally unfriendly (more energy used)

Not really... Cars and bikes generate electricity all the time, just that a lot of it is wasted. As for wasted bulbs, bulb life is mainly erestricted by power cycling and accident damage, they rarely fail from use. MTF on a Silverstar is something nuts like 100000 hours.

I think a modern alternator creates a greater load on the engine the more power it's having to generate. I suspect rather than just sinking excess power when not required, the regulator can restrict the power output to match demand. That's certainly possible where there's an electro-magnet rather than a permanent magnet generating the field. Crikey, the DC dynamo on my old AJS uses that principle.

15-12-06, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Zopilote

Here in Sweden it is required to have lights on even daytime on all motor driven vehicles

Considering how far North you are I think thats probably a good idea. How many hours daylight do you have around 21st Dec? (shortest day)

Pete

15-12-06, 08:00 PM

This time of the year: From 8 am to 3.30 pm, but on the other hand, midlle of summer it never gets real dark

15-12-06, 08:44 PM

Two words--------------------BAD IDEA

[New motorbikes nearly all have AH an this would only merge into a sea of lights if all vehicles ran with headlights on]

15-12-06, 05:04 PM	#1
independentphoto Guest Posts: n/a	Proposal for Daylight Running Lights on ALL vehicles. Here's an interesting article on how "Europe" wants to take away the little advantage we might have in respect of catching the eyes of motorists etc. http://www.mag-uk.org/content/campai...drl/magdrl.htm Scary stuff! Garry

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15-12-06, 05:12 PM	#2
Ceri JC Guest Posts: n/a	A rather stupid idea: No safety benefit (less than none for us), environmentally unfriendly (more energy used), expensive (more times more bulbs will be used up per year). Still, we get the government we vote for, eh? Oh, wait, we didn't vote for them...

15-12-06, 05:30 PM	#4
Baph Guest Posts: n/a	I think what Ceri JC meant, was more light pollution :P Also, if all cars have lights on all the time, it means bikes stand out from the crowd less. Hmm.

15-12-06, 05:37 PM	#5
Stu Trinity Mega Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Guildford Posts: 8,027	If they got the type of DLR light right it would be good. I like cars with sidelights on and bikes with headlights. Helps me distinguish moving cars from parked ones for one thing. And with LED's coming in no failure or electricity consumption problems.

15-12-06, 07:06 PM	#6
Zopilote Guest Posts: n/a	Here in Sweden it is required to have lights on even daytime on all motor driven vehicles (not bicycles). Actually i have never been thinking of the fact that motorcycles would be more visible if they were the only vehicles with lights on during daytime, but you may have a point there... On the other hand i find it quite hard to see a car with no lights on, maybe because you expect the headlights to be on as soon as the engine is started. I normalyy drive with full beam on when outside city limits. Better annoy some people than not be seen by others.

15-12-06, 08:00 PM	#9
Zopilote Guest Posts: n/a	This time of the year: From 8 am to 3.30 pm, but on the other hand, midlle of summer it never gets real dark

15-12-06, 08:44 PM	#10
Dicky Ticker Guest Posts: n/a	Two words--------------------BAD IDEA [New motorbikes nearly all have AH an this would only merge into a sea of lights if all vehicles ran with headlights on]