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Old 24-02-15, 10:14 PM   #1
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Default Novice Friendly Track Days

I'm on another forum called TDR (trackdayriders.co.uk) and a guy on there has put together a couple of novice only track days at Cadwell Park designed specifically for people new to track days. Either with very little track day experience or have yet to ride on track. Have a look at his site for more information......

http://www.blackandwhitebikes.co.uk/latest-news

I'll be signing up as I could do with some expert advice on a track I've never ridden on!
It should be a cracking day, be great to see some of you guys there.

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Old 24-02-15, 10:30 PM   #2
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Old 25-02-15, 12:18 AM   #3
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Seems a bit pricey IMO, a trackday with nolimits at cadwell in june costs around 125 and they offer free instruction
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Old 25-02-15, 09:26 AM   #4
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Seems a bit pricey IMO, a trackday with nolimits at cadwell in june costs around 125 and they offer free instruction
Indeed, you are spot on with that and the experience that Black & White Bikes are offering will be totally different to what you get at a No Limits or Focused Events trackday.

Firstly, it is just for novice riders. Trackdays have evolved over the years to be quite a 'professional' event. If you don't turn up in a van with a track prepped bike on paddock stands and tyre warmers then you stand out as a 'newbie'. Nothing wrong with that but it can be quite daunting and has put first timers off. With novice riders only, you'll be among similarly experienced people.

Secondly, the instruction is personal. You will be allocated an instructor to work with you all day long, from the first session to the last. You won't be left on your own to make mistakes and get disheartened, your instructor will work with you to improve you performance every step of the way. You do share this instructor with 2 other people but the group of 4 of you will be out together. Other trackday organizers do not offer this level of instruction.

Thirdly, the sessions are 30 minutes long which is 50% longer than the other days. This gives the advantage that the instructors can bring their group of 3 pupils off the track for a minute or 2 to discuss issues, make some improvements and swap the order around in the group and then get back out on track. 3o minutes is a long time and these short breaks will help the learning process massively.

Fourthly, there will be just 60 pupils at the track, that's half the amount that would be at a 'normal' trackday.

Then there are additional services available for FREE! There will be a suspension expert available to help you with bike set up. This would normally cost you 50. Also there will be a fully qualified ACU Scruitineer who is there to help you with everything from basic motorcycle maintenance to full race preparation. And of course there will be a tyre expert on site to help you with tyre issues or even just get you tyre pressures set correctly.

When you take all that into consideration, hopefully you'll see that actually it's remarkable good value for money.
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Old 25-02-15, 09:56 AM   #5
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All good points and you can see why it costs more. Normal TD instructors are borderline useless as a generalism. Your website could be a bit clearer on it though
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Old 25-02-15, 10:15 AM   #6
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If you are getting one to one tuition. It's more school than track day. Then it's good value.
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Old 25-02-15, 10:27 AM   #7
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We are working on having a new page done on the B&W Bikes website to promote the trackdays better. But thanks for the feedback, really useful.
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Old 25-02-15, 12:43 PM   #8
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In the interest of feedback, not trying to be difficult, the Ron Haslam race school isn't a huge amount more expensive but includes bike hire (and the associated consumables costs), fuel, and full kit. That to me as a complete track novice would be more appealing than doing it on my own bike, or even using my own kit.
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Old 25-02-15, 12:53 PM   #9
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You're right to look at all the options but to make the comparison accurate, the Ron Haslam Race School is 295 and includes a CBR600RR and all the kit but is a half day only, 3 sessions on track. It is well proven and a very good course.

The B&W day is 7x 30 minute sessions, so a lot more tracktime. Hire bikes are available at 220 so it does all become very similar when you take it all into consideration.
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Old 25-02-15, 01:07 PM   #10
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Does look like a very good package, will be interested to hear feedback Bunkle.
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