Indicator sounder - SV650.org

Mark_h · 24-08-05, 10:03 PM

In the old days, indicators used to beep when on to save you forgetting to turn them off and confusing the poor motorist who gets a gold plated excuse for pulling out in front of you.

Anyone know of a neat way of fitting such a beeper/buzzer to a K1 naked cluster? Probably just a case of connecting a buzzer between the turn signal on the instrument cluster and a decent earth point, but was wondering if anyone had done this and come up with the neatest way of doing it or if someone has done it and decided it is more annoying than I could have imagined and regretted ever doing it.

Thanks in advance,
Mark

24-08-05, 10:20 PM

Look for a 'datatool turnalert' - that's exactly what you are describing.

I got one of ebay for a tenner and it is easy enough to fit.

tigersaw · 24-08-05, 10:25 PM

I fitted a 12v sounder under the rear seat, using the feeds to the rear indicators, isolated from each other using diodes. It cost nothing just using gash bits and is easy to do and there is plenty of room to fit it.

embee · 24-08-05, 10:34 PM

I did once dabble with this on another bike.

Don't bother with cheapo buzzers like you get for a quid from Maplins etc, they seem to be the wrong sort of frequencies and aren't loud enough to hear when you're moving especially if you use earplugs.

I never did sort out a good arrangement.

24-08-05, 11:13 PM

In the "Beep Beep" thread below, good ol' Henners got it right (as usual) when he said that manufacturers had stopped fitting audible warning devices because of complaints. In the late seventies, the manufacturer I worked for (and later retailed) retro-removed all the bleepers after complaints from (I think) the RNIB that people with challenged eyesight could step out in front of moving machines, thinking they were Pelican or Zebra crossings signalling "Cross Now".

It's potentially the same problem today.....but multiplied by the even greater number of controlled crossings and with the added problem of bikes being mistaken for reversing trucks! It gets worse when you consider that you have to get the bleeper going pretty loud to penetrate a full face helmet and earplugs...in my day we had a pudding basin and white scarf so a light "chirrup" was OK!

On behalf of blind people, please make your "reminder" warning system visual, not audible.

Sid Squid · 25-08-05, 07:00 AM

I don't recall any bike coming with an indicator reminder as standard, I only remember them as aftermarket add-ons.

What bike did anyone have that had this as standard?

25-08-05, 07:06 AM

the new pug jetforce has that! its soo annoying and embarrising (I only rode it because my Sv was having a new tyre and it was not throught choice)

25-08-05, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Squid

I don't recall any bike coming with an indicator reminder as standard, I only remember them as aftermarket add-ons.

What bike did anyone have that had this as standard?

Well, I could have gone nuts (probably have), but some early K twins and triples.

Mark_h · 25-08-05, 10:58 AM

Thanks for the speedy responses. I'm sure the older bikes had a beep. Nothing as fancy as a beeper that cuts in after 20 flashes, more a buzzer in parallel with the dash indicator. I used to have an early 70's Suzuki 90cc something or other that had one and I'm sure my Dad's old 750/4 had one too. Mind you it may have been the 70's version of todays stick on carbon bits and just an add-on that everyone added at the time.

Must admit did not think of the added danger of blind people leaping out in front of me thinking I was a crossing, but will consider that when ever somone with a labrador suddenly steps out in front of me.

jambo · 25-08-05, 12:16 PM

Just develop a nervous twitch to look down at the idiot light on the pannel. Simple but effective!

24-08-05, 10:03 PM	#1
Mark_h Member Mega Poster Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fleet, Hampshire Posts: 2,448	Indicator sounder In the old days, indicators used to beep when on to save you forgetting to turn them off and confusing the poor motorist who gets a gold plated excuse for pulling out in front of you. Anyone know of a neat way of fitting such a beeper/buzzer to a K1 naked cluster? Probably just a case of connecting a buzzer between the turn signal on the instrument cluster and a decent earth point, but was wondering if anyone had done this and come up with the neatest way of doing it or if someone has done it and decided it is more annoying than I could have imagined and regretted ever doing it. Thanks in advance, Mark

25-08-05, 07:00 AM	#6
Sid Squid No, I don't lend tools. Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Skunk Works, Nth London Posts: 8,680	I don't recall any bike coming with an indicator reminder as standard, I only remember them as aftermarket add-ons. What bike did anyone have that had this as standard? __________________ If an SV650 has a flat tyre in the forest and no-one is there to blow it up, how long will it be 'til someone posts that the reg/rec is duff and the world will end unless a CBR unit is fitted? A little bit of knowledge = a dangerous thing. "a deathless anthem of nuclear-strength romantic angst"

25-08-05, 12:16 PM	#10
jambo Member Mega Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Croydonia Posts: 5,376	Just develop a nervous twitch to look down at the idiot light on the pannel. Simple but effective! __________________ Modern motorcycles are bloody brilliant, enjoy it while we can

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24-08-05, 10:20 PM	#2
nuntius Guest Posts: n/a	Look for a 'datatool turnalert' - that's exactly what you are describing. I got one of ebay for a tenner and it is easy enough to fit.

24-08-05, 10:25 PM	#3
tigersaw Member Mega Poster Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Llanwrtyd Wells Powys Posts: 1,146	I fitted a 12v sounder under the rear seat, using the feeds to the rear indicators, isolated from each other using diodes. It cost nothing just using gash bits and is easy to do and there is plenty of room to fit it.

24-08-05, 10:34 PM	#4
embee Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 2,801	I did once dabble with this on another bike. Don't bother with cheapo buzzers like you get for a quid from Maplins etc, they seem to be the wrong sort of frequencies and aren't loud enough to hear when you're moving especially if you use earplugs. I never did sort out a good arrangement.

24-08-05, 11:13 PM	#5
Anonymous Guest Posts: n/a	In the "Beep Beep" thread below, good ol' Henners got it right (as usual) when he said that manufacturers had stopped fitting audible warning devices because of complaints. In the late seventies, the manufacturer I worked for (and later retailed) retro-removed all the bleepers after complaints from (I think) the RNIB that people with challenged eyesight could step out in front of moving machines, thinking they were Pelican or Zebra crossings signalling "Cross Now". It's potentially the same problem today.....but multiplied by the even greater number of controlled crossings and with the added problem of bikes being mistaken for reversing trucks! It gets worse when you consider that you have to get the bleeper going pretty loud to penetrate a full face helmet and earplugs...in my day we had a pudding basin and white scarf so a light "chirrup" was OK! On behalf of blind people, please make your "reminder" warning system visual, not audible.

25-08-05, 07:06 AM	#7
Last Action Pimp Guest Posts: n/a	the new pug jetforce has that! its soo annoying and embarrising (I only rode it because my Sv was having a new tyre and it was not throught choice)

25-08-05, 10:58 AM	#9
Mark_h Member Mega Poster Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fleet, Hampshire Posts: 2,448	Thanks for the speedy responses. I'm sure the older bikes had a beep. Nothing as fancy as a beeper that cuts in after 20 flashes, more a buzzer in parallel with the dash indicator. I used to have an early 70's Suzuki 90cc something or other that had one and I'm sure my Dad's old 750/4 had one too. Mind you it may have been the 70's version of todays stick on carbon bits and just an add-on that everyone added at the time. Must admit did not think of the added danger of blind people leaping out in front of me thinking I was a crossing, but will consider that when ever somone with a labrador suddenly steps out in front of me.