SV650.org - SV650 & Gladius 650 Forum



Bikes - Talk & Issues Newsworthy and topical general biking and bike related issues. No crapola!
Need Help: Try Searching before posting

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 09-08-06, 09:28 AM   #1
Gordon B
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Police and Filtering

After picking up a police tail this morning on the A19 from Selby it set me wondering.....

What is the laws view about filtering? Is it something you can be nicked for?

I just stuck to the speed limit and didn't overtake as it was quite busy.

Anyone here ever been done for it?
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-06, 09:37 AM   #2
Baph
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

According to the instructor I was riding with, so long as you stay within our own lane (assuming it's a single lane heading your direction) and within the speed limits, overtaking is a matter of safety to both yourself and the person you are overtaking.

I've not really been riding long enough to find out the view from a policeman (or woman), but according to the instructor, filtering is legal (conditionally). My opinion is that they might consider it an unsafe move, and pull you for undue care, but that's at the discresion of the officer really. As I learnt doing my DAS test, all riding is discretionary (I received a minor fault for riding exactly as my instructor said - not more than 45mph through a particular series of bends in a national speed limit, the test examiner said I rolled off the throttle too soon & slowed down too much... and he would know, being in his CAR! rant over)
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-06, 09:46 AM   #3
Abyss
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

When riding round in central London it seems to be as long as your not doing something v. stupid they will leave you too it. They dont like you going into the cycling box tho.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-06, 09:48 AM   #4
SVeeedy Gonzales
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Filtering (moving between, or down the outside of, lanes of stopped or slow moving traffic) is legal in the UK. There's a lot of grey area though.

There's no set speed above which it isn't safe to filter, though most people put it at 40mph or less. Also you might get pulled if you seem to be dangerous. Filtering round the wrong side of traffic islands, etc. will at the very least get you told off by a wagging finger.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-06, 09:52 AM   #5
SVeeedy Gonzales
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abyss
When riding round in central London it seems to be as long as your not doing something v. stupid they will leave you too it. They dont like you going into the cycling box tho.
Or the cycle lanes... though if the cycle lane has dotted (not solid) markings between it and the road, you can legally enter there and use it. Just so long as you don't take out a cyclist, which would then be seen by most courts as 100% your fault regardless.
I try to avoid the boxes in London but if there's a lot of bikes/other traffic I'll use it to assist with the government initiative on congestion reduction. If no bicycles are using it I'd say it's fair game, and in heavy traffic most coppers wouldn't mind, or at least couldn't be arsed/able to pull you for it .
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-06, 10:16 AM   #6
Kinvig
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SVeeedy Gonzales
Quote:
Originally Posted by Abyss
When riding round in central London it seems to be as long as your not doing something v. stupid they will leave you too it. They dont like you going into the cycling box tho.
Or the cycle lanes... .
I always use them (Providing I'm not within the timeframe displayed on the sign) I don't understand why car drivers don't.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-06, 10:23 AM   #7
Viney
Member
Mega Poster
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: In the shadows to the left
Posts: 7,700
Default

Filyering is not illegal as long as you stay in the reals of UK traffic laws(white lines etc) However, the use of cycle lanes would imo, be wrong, as they are mainly near the kerb, and that would consitute passing on the left hand side of a vehicle, which is illegal(pedants, dont go there ok)

I have happily sat in the cycle box at the lights with police bikes besides me and nothing ever said.

But its true, if youa re sensible, then 9/10 times, out boys in blue will be kind.
Viney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-06, 10:26 AM   #8
jim@55
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

i was passed ,on the m8 by two police riders filtering with jackets open flapping in the breeze and thir flip-face helmets flipped up ,doing the slalom between cars in gaps that looked a bit small for me on the sv never mind a pan euro .i was in a queue waiting for the turnoff 100 yds away ,not pushing up like a good boy and they breezed past ,so yes if their doing it in full uniform/livery it must b ok .btw i reckon if i was doing what they done i would have talked too as somebody said a bit of sense is required ,if its not dangerous its ok (i think)
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-06, 10:55 AM   #9
andyaikido
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

If the police are in a car don't worry, how are they going to catch up with you?
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-06, 11:03 AM   #10
Davido
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I regularly filter in full view of the police. Even through gaps that are the other side of sensible. Just beause i'm hard like that.

But as long as you're not going for it looking over your shoulder at them, while covering your numberplate with your free hand, you should be fine.

I doubt that many police officers would be bothered to pull you for filtering in any kind of traffic. Providing you weren't speeding.
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Police policing the police demonstration Fizzy Fish Idle Banter 47 24-01-08 08:37 PM
Filtering and the law rubberduckofdeath Bikes - Talk & Issues 35 12-07-07 09:01 AM
Filtering - police view Jebiah Bikes - Talk & Issues 33 05-05-07 11:40 AM
filtering gettin2dizzy Bikes - Talk & Issues 11 17-11-06 11:05 AM
Filtering Stingo Idle Banter 13 02-06-06 04:23 PM


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:39 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® - Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.